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Title: Stunt twins
Post by: Andrew Tinsley on July 15, 2015, 03:25:04 PM
A friend of mine was asking about stunt twins. What is available in the just over 5O inch size, how do they fly and where can you get the drawings from. I have no idea on twins, so can anyone make any suggestions.

Andrew
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Tim Wescott on July 15, 2015, 03:46:32 PM
Brian and Mike Massey are (fairly) local stunt pilots who are brothers, but they're not twins.  They're also much taller than 50".

They fly in Advanced.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: David_Stack on July 15, 2015, 03:57:01 PM
Pathfinder Profile Twin: http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php/topic,36393.0.html

Available via custom order from Eric Rule I believe.  Comments in that thread indicate it is a very good flying model...

r/
Dave
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: peabody on July 15, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
Eric Rule @ RSM offers LA Heat (2 35's) and LA Warmth (15 sized) .
Frank Carlisle flew a LA Heat at Brodaks....it looked great
Have fun.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Sean McEntee on July 15, 2015, 07:35:34 PM
Jack Sheeks's Mosquito is also kitted by RSM. A good design as well.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Randy Cuberly on July 15, 2015, 08:30:53 PM
Eric Rule @ RSM offers LA Heat (2 35's) and LA Warmth (15 sized) .
Frank Carlisle flew a LA Heat at Brodaks....it looked great
Have fun.

Bob Whitely designed the LA Heat and flew it to a top 5 finish at the Nationals some time in the early 2000's ( sorry can't remember exactly when)  A very big airplane but an excellent flier.

The Pathfinder Twin is an outstanding flier.  I flew Gordon Delaney's here in Tucson and wanted to steal it, but Gordy was watching too closely!  I have one of the kits and two FP 15's and plan to duplicate Gordy's!

 LL~ LL~ 2 FP 15's for power.

I also have the RSM Kit for the Mosquito but haven't built it yet.  The kit looks very good and should be a good Semi Scale flier.  To all accounts Jack used two Fox 29's and flew it well!  I plan to use two LA25's.

Too many great airplanes and so little time!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Sean McEntee on July 15, 2015, 08:48:43 PM
Bob Whitely designed the LA Heat and flew it to a top 5 finish at the Nationals some time in the early 2000's ( sorry can't remember exactly when)  A very big airplane but an excellent flier.

The Pathfinder Twin is an outstanding flier.  I flew Gordon Delaney's here in Tucson and wanted to steal it, but Gordy was watching too closely!  I have one of the kits and two FP 15's and plan to duplicate Gordy's!

 LL~ LL~ 2 FP 15's for power.

I also have the RSM Kit for the Mosquito but haven't built it yet.  The kit looks very good and should be a good Semi Scale flier.  To all accounts Jack used two Fox 29's and flew it well!  I plan to use two LA25's.

Too many great airplanes and so little time!

Randy Cuberly

LA Heat is older...late 80s/early 90s.  Dad has a calendar in his building room that has the original on it, and hes had it since I was a little guy.

That last comment is sure true!
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Motorman on July 15, 2015, 08:59:58 PM
http://daniel-wales-images.deviantart.com/art/de-Havilland-DH-88-Comet-480954101
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Howard Rush on July 15, 2015, 09:23:17 PM
Gordan Delaney's twin Pathfinder.  Bob Hunt and Bud Wieder have some impressive electric twins I saw fly today.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: M Spencer on July 15, 2015, 09:48:05 PM
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http://daniel-wales-images.deviantart.com/art/de-Havilland-DH-88-Comet-480954101

(http://www.controlline.org.uk/userupload/613/0006.jpg)

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Sixty Six in . two 20 / 25s ( 9 x 4 props ) Flies like a hot knife through butter .
IF you can build straight & fly . Repeat hourglasses , cloverleafs & Sq Horz Eights
On its FIRST flight . with a Fox 19 & 25 . We now have TEN fox 19 / 25s .  ::) :P

( One Wonders if Ones loosing it when He starts finding Super Tigre 60s in the Garden ! )
( o.k. Id forgot to put it away a few days before , which is obviously No Excuse )
thers also about a dozen OS max 20s & 25s , not to mention the G 15s , Two of
most other 20s or 25s , often a spare , and EIGHT o Max 15 OSes etc etc .  :-[ :-X

You might get the plans for a bottle of malt wiskey , if im in a good mood .

Wheels ? WHEELS ! Its a AEROPLANE . NOT a CAR . though the new one'll have retracts .
About to start the second 78 in one with two .35s . As a rissole  trashed Both
and thought if she flogged my drawing gear she'd be a superior being . n1
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: M Spencer on July 15, 2015, 10:11:13 PM
Though your best bet would be to just stick two engines on an Oriental , or scrible over the plan .

These THINGS are ORIENTAL WINGS and thereabouts proportions , though the W.W. chords an inch less .

The 262 @ 70 Oz. on 70 ft. of .018 laystrate with two FP25s  hauls the coal nicely AND will stick
to the track for F2B , the mosquitros akrobatic  And Whirlwind tracks true aerobatically .
Theyre about 60 Oz. The originals back 73/74 were 35 & 38 Oz. with two OS Max 20s.

60 ft lines, in the calm on 70 Ft of .012 the 262 would do loops and repeat wingovers on the OUTER only , engine .

(http://www.controlline.org.uk/userupload/613/0005.jpg)
you can see its a flying Wing Fence . !
(http://www.controlline.org.uk/userupload/613/0003.jpg)

(http://www.controlline.org.uk/userupload/613/0004.jpg)

theres Veco 19s in the Mosquito . Rowdiest on 20 % N & Rossi R5 Plugs .
TwO fox 19s or 25s or Mix in the W. W. . the 262s flown with ST 20/23s ,
OS Max 20s & 25s , ST G15FIs , MVVS D7s , and others . Thoughs HOME to Two
Magnum 25 GP ( OS FP clones ) Now . looks like theyll stay. At That Weight .

Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Randy Cuberly on July 15, 2015, 11:35:27 PM
LA Heat is older...late 80s/early 90s.  Dad has a calendar in his building room that has the original on it, and hes had it since I was a little guy.

That last comment is sure true!

Yeah, you're right Sean, it could well be early 90's...Old guy memory is "crap".  Just wait, You'll get there!

Randy Cuberly
PS:  I have that calendar somewhere also!
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Andrew Tinsley on July 16, 2015, 05:16:36 AM
Thanks Guys,
Is the LA twin a profile, Took a look at it on Eric's site, It looked a profile, but it had the thickest fuselage I have seen for a profile!

Andrew.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on July 16, 2015, 08:00:58 AM
Also the twin Flite Streak - I think John Miller sells the plans.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on July 16, 2015, 11:05:48 AM
Howard said it all: "Gordan Delaney's twin Pathfinder.  Bob Hunt and Bud Wieder have some impressive electric twins I saw fly today."

They are the twins to consider.

Bob Hunt will make his twin drawings available soon. It has been going through a long development and Bob shares his information freely. It is worth waiting for. 

Gordon's Pathfinder is what turned Bob Hunt on to developing his electric twin
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Bill Little on July 16, 2015, 04:48:28 PM
Don Hutchinson recently offered B-25 profile plans.  Don's models are very close to scale outlines and fly great!  Don is a member here so contact him, I believe the plans are $10.  He also as a great P-38 profile.

Steve Moon offers plans for a B-25 through UHP.  This model uses Core House wing cores for wings.

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: eric rule on July 16, 2015, 05:04:20 PM
I have done Gordon's Twin Pathfinder in both glow and electric power recently for Dave Sabon in San Diego. Here's some pictures of Dave's Twin Pathfinder. He reports that the twin electric is simply awesome. In fact he is so happy with the way it flies that he wants me to make it a bit bigger, turn it into a full bodied stunter with two of my 35-40 power systems on it and include trike gear retracts. As we speak the AutoCAD work is being done. The new "Twin Pathfinder LE" should be ready to go to laser cut in a couple of months.

Eric Rule
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: eric rule on July 16, 2015, 05:05:25 PM
more pictures of Sabon's Twin Pathfinder
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Bill Little on July 16, 2015, 05:35:18 PM
Hi Eric,

You do so many great kits, maybe you can get with Don H. and maybe kit a couple of his?  They are great semi scale profiles!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: eric rule on July 16, 2015, 08:17:48 PM
Hi Bill:

I have had the greatest respect for Hutch every since he was president of the Knights of the Round Circle out here on the left coast. Not only does he design great models he is also one of the nicest people I have every had the opportunity to know. I would consider it a real honor if he allowed me to kit one or more of his models. The greatest problem would be the cost of money and time in converting his hand drawn plans into AutoCAD so that the laser could cut the parts.

Eric

Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Chris McMillin on July 17, 2015, 10:39:39 PM
LA Heat was 1988 6th place Open. Bob said he helped Kaz a little too much.
Chris...
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Michael Boucher on April 17, 2016, 09:48:25 AM
Does anyone know the wingspan of Don Hutchinson's P-38 model? Thanks, Mike
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: wwwarbird on April 17, 2016, 11:02:21 AM
 
 By memory Hutch's P-38 is right around 56", might even be that.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Dave_Trible on April 17, 2016, 12:57:50 PM
Lew McFarland did a P-38 semi scale with Veco .19s. It's about 50-52 inches.  I got the plans and hope to find time to build one.

Dave
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Michael Boucher on April 17, 2016, 01:40:45 PM
Thank you Warbird.  H^^
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Avaiojet on April 17, 2016, 04:28:51 PM
I've got a Grumman Widgeon on the drawing board. I'm thinking a couple of 19's or just a tad larger.

I'm looking for two matched NIB engines. Originally thinking scale or semi scale, but I think stunt is the direction I'll take with the design.

Could go electric with it?

Might start this project next winter.

Charles
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: pat king on April 17, 2016, 04:55:47 PM
The LA Heat and the LA Warmth are both built-up fuselages. The Heat is a big airplane. I designed the Warmth to provide a smaller version of a beautiful airplane.

Pat
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Steve_Pollock on April 17, 2016, 06:39:27 PM
Dick Sarpolus' TCtwo  ...
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: peabody on April 17, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
Windy built three twinkies in three years....the B-25, A-26 and Tigercat. The B-25 was the best flier, I think.Big airplanes all....
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Robert Zambelli on April 18, 2016, 06:19:47 AM
Here's a great flying twin.
1949 design - OTS legal but I've been told by observers the it would do well in AMA stunt.
Very easy to build and fly.
Just over 50 inch span, powered by two 1955 Fox 19s.

Bob Z.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Jeff Traxler on April 18, 2016, 08:45:31 AM
The LA Heat and the LA Warmth are both built-up fuselages. The Heat is a big airplane. I designed the Warmth to provide a smaller version of a beautiful airplane.

Pat

I have the first RSM LA Warmth that was built by my late friend Frank Carlisle.It flew very well with a pair of LA,15's.I had the opportunity to fly Bob Hunt's testbed twin and the warmth is being converted to E.2 engines=tooooo messy.
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Jim Oliver on April 18, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
Here's a photo of the one Howard wrote about.

Bob Hunt

Very Slickity!!  Any plans available for this beauty?
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Jared Hays on April 19, 2016, 09:24:38 PM
Here's a photo of the one Howard wrote about.

Bob Hunt

Sexy! y1
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: Scott Richlen on April 24, 2016, 06:59:11 PM
Bob:

How about some more photos?  That is really a good-looking plane.

Hey!  What happened to the landing gear??   ;D
Title: Re: Stunt twins
Post by: M Spencer on April 24, 2016, 09:05:42 PM
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http://stunthanger.com/smf/gettin-all-amp'ed-up!/new-electric-twin-project-back-on-track/

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What happened to the landing gear

It Wore Off .  :##

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Very Slickity!!  Any plans available for this beauty?

See Top Link . n1

wereve you guys been all this time .  >:D

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http://stunthanger.com/smf/gettin-all-amp'ed-up!/new-twin-well-under-way/

if the links are Finks , look on page threee of ' all amped up ' , Bob Hunt for the Author , might get it .