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Title: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Juan Valentin on March 08, 2014, 11:42:50 AM

 
           I always had a hard time doing splicing of 1/4 inch spars and leading edges. Today I had an idea that I would like to share with you all. I took a piece of aluminum 1/2 inch thick ,1 inch wide and 3 inches long and milled a 1/4 inch slot in the center then I made a cut with a saw at a 20 degree angle to guide my exacto hand saw and now I`m able to cut perfect splices. After I cut them I glue them with 30 minute epoxy by using wax paper in the aluminum tool and sliding the two pieces together for aligment. Here are some pics.
                                                                                                                                                            Juan
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Paul Allen on March 08, 2014, 01:23:00 PM
Juan
       Good work.
       Right tool for the job, makes life a bit easier.
Paul
In OZ
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Bob Reeves on March 08, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
Xacto makes a small miter box for those that don't have a mill.
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on March 08, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
The Xacto mitre box only goes to 45 deg.  But that's enough glue area for our use.  Full scale spar splices must be 10-1, as I remember.

Floyd
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Brett Buck on March 08, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
The Xacto mitre box only goes to 45 deg.  But that's enough glue area for our use.  Full scale spar splices must be 10-1, as I remember.

Floyd

     You can cut your own slots with a Zona saw. You want more than a 45 degree angle, more like 5 degrees (12:1 scarf joint). The only issue is that the Zona saw might not be long enough.

    It's easy to make your own mitre boxes, just glue them up from spruce stock and then cut the slots you need.

    Brett
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Jim Thomerson on March 08, 2014, 06:31:11 PM
What I do is tack glue the two pieces of 1/4 square, or whatever, together with enough overlap.  Then I cut them apart with a Zona saw, and pop the glued on ends off.  As long as they are held steady and the saw doesn't bend, they will glue together perfectly. My recollection is that a proper scarf joint is supposed to be 12 to one.  Mine aren't that good.
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Motorman on March 09, 2014, 10:53:29 AM
12:1 is desired but 10:1 is acceptable on full scale aircraft.

MM
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: John Stiles on March 09, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
Outstanding idea, I'll have my machinist son build me a couple of those. Thanks Juan for sharing your invention. H^^
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Juan Valentin on March 10, 2014, 08:29:17 AM
Hello John
                  Since you have a machinist son he can make this other tool for sanding the nose of the plane and get the right amount of clearance for your spinner. This Idea I got from an article on a magazine but can`t remember which one. I made it out of aluminum that I had laying around from doing something for my bike. The front disc is 2 inches in diameter for me that covers most of the .40 size planes I build. To use you bolt your engine with the amount right offset you want to the plane then you place sanding paper on the tools face and you slide it on the crankshaft and sand until you have the clearance you want from the spinner to the nose ring. Cover the engine inlet and exhaust,you can wrap it with cling wrap to stop dust and sandpaper particles. The pictures show the engine crutch for the Jetco Dolphin that I`m building.
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: John Stiles on March 10, 2014, 08:34:17 AM
Thanks Juan, I'm gonna show him that as well. Great stuff to have....makes a person's job building model airplanes a lot easier. H^^
Title: Re: Splicing 1/4 inch wing spars And Leading edges
Post by: Randy Ryan on March 10, 2014, 09:22:48 AM

           I always had a hard time doing splicing of 1/4 inch spars and leading edges. Today I had an idea that I would like to share with you all. I took a piece of aluminum 1/2 inch thick ,1 inch wide and 3 inches long and milled a 1/4 inch slot in the center then I made a cut with a saw at a 20 degree angle to guide my exacto hand saw and now I`m able to cut perfect splices. After I cut them I glue them with 30 minute epoxy by using wax paper in the aluminum tool and sliding the two pieces together for aligment. Here are some pics.
                                                                                                                                                            Juan



The wise guy in me tells me to let you know this is called a plain "scarf" joint.