Ruptured CA Bottle

[Phil Spillman]

 ???Hi All, Last Saturday while attending the NVCL Contest in Lotton VA, I lent my almost full bottle of CA thin to a friend in need. Monday I tried to retrieve some props from my flite box and found them glued to the box bottom! The CA bottle had ruptured and CA'D all my props to the bottom of my box! I was able to pry them loose but all have a big glob on CA stuck to them! Does anybody have a solution for me to try to get the glue off the props short of grinding it off with my sander or soaking them in Acetone? Would appreciate help!

Thanks,

Phil Spillman   

[Jim Oliver]

Debonder (aka nitromethene) will probably do it-----might damage the props though.........

[W.D. Roland]

I have done this before, Epoxy also

Pop what you can off with blade. If lucky the finish will come off and no wood will come off.
Scraping with razor blade will help bring lumps down with out getting in to the wood.
Emery board what you can't get off.
Dremel with sanding drum works well in root area.
Sand it back smooth.

Oil base minwax urethane is what I have used for refinish.

Looks good and also works on light blade to balance. Fuel resistant to 10% after drying a week or so.

One of just many ways


David

[Tim Wescott]

Thanks,

Phil Spillman   

At the risk of retribution at some unspecified time in the future -- it couldn't have happened to a guy with a more appropriate name.

I hope you rescue your props.

[Phil Spillman]

To Tim, David, and Jim, Thanks for all your input I truly appreciate your suggestions! Tim, funny you should make the play of words upon my name! You're not the first and likely will not be the last! I used to keep a card in my desk throughout my career titled "Funny names for Phil"! I've been called some doozes: Mr. Spodeman, Mr. Billman, Mr. Bodeman, Silly Philly, and son on! The list was always a source of comic relief when stressed out! AS to what is the Rest of The Story, I used my paint heating Heat Gun on low speed just to see what might happen! Together with a trusty old putty knife once heated I was able to pop off the major globs of cured CA! The next step will be to finish with appropriate sanding, emery abrasives and refinish finally with some sort of spray can clear. Heretofore I've used Lustre Coat Crystal Clear to finish the balanced props.

Thanks to All for your thoughts and suggestions!

Phil Spillman

[Bootlegger]

  Phil, I have used Acetone to get ca'd parts seperated, on the props you'll probably lose the finish, but it's worth a try.  Good luck, and keep us posted.

[Joe Just]

Mr. Spillman.  Try living with my last name for 70 some odd years!  At last count my last name has been mispronounced over 50 times, and that doesn't include my good friend in Bombay. Remember him?  HOO PLEE!
Joe

[John Stiles]

???Hi All, Last Saturday while attending the NVCL Contest in Lotton VA, I lent my almost full bottle of CA thin to a friend in need.............

Me too....and when I got it back, I put it in my right jeans pocket.....after awhile of goofin off, I started to have a strange "bound up" feeling. Then it hit me...and I crammed my hand in to try and get the bottle out before any real emergency hit....too late.....only now my hand was also stuck[among other things]! So I now only have one hand to un-buckle, unzip, and survey the dillema. I could've used my pocket knife about then, but it was in my right jeans pocket along with "everything else"! I began to take inventory of available people around that might could be trusted, and when I got it narrowed down to my best friend......I quickly discovered that he had a funny-bone that was insatiable.....and everytime he began to reach for my waistband, he folded up like a lawnchair. I decided to crab it around behind a sufficient building and do my best "single-handedly"! Needless to say, after I made myself presentable enough to come out sheepishly from hiding.....school was out, because everyone had been appraised of the event. So waving an emarrassedly fuzzy blue right hand with a pocket knife still cemented in place I made my retreat!

[W.D. Roland]

Well John  I have all the coffee out of the key board, or at least hope so.

Do you have any video of that?
I think I knew your cousin.

15+ years back had a couple of friends stationed here at the airbase. Their job was repairing A-10 rudders.
Super glue was used in the repairs and the glue came in pint(Quart?) size bottles so of course we all ways had plenty of it.
At that time we were into flying scale type stuff and some float flying at the lake from the moving ski boat. nuther story...

We were young enough to do a good job of making large piles of empty  Beer cans and would meet at one of the guys house where a large bed room was converted to a building room with 3 8ft benches an a refrigerator. The girls had their own refrigerator, in the kitchen, next to the TV. Good arrangement. So we would build all night on Friday and Saturday.

Whoops! this is about a BIG bottle of super glue.
One of the guys would test the bottle to make sure it wasn't plugged by putting it up to his ear and listening for the 'hiss' when the bottle was squeezed.BIG Bottle.
The rest of us never did think that was a brilliant Idea. We were right.

So on one squeeze , later known as the beginning, whoops! he got an ear full...............of glue.
The Beer had us slowed down enough where us other 2 just couldn't stop his finger from entering his Ear.
We tried, we were moving in his direction but he was just to fast for his own good.
The fit of his finger was good in the hole and was at least one good point. a light press fit. The finger wouldn't come back out was even better. Drift it out from the other side? with a center punch?

Hard headed finger eared people only half listen to advice about going to the emergency room or such. Guess if it was my Christen Eagle almost ready to maiden the next day I would probably tried to finish it with one hand and one ear also . One hand in ear is worth something
Needless to say that the entertainment value was at the top of the scale. Hell, just him sitting there with his finger fixed in one place was a  good deal. free too!

About an hours worth of loosing servo mounting screws down the fuselage and fishing them back out single handily frustration won.  
Well when you see him do this He really means this  
That's when, yes we were to slow again you understand, Beer, his free hand moved with the speed of his mouth
and YANKED the stuck finger and ear meat right out the side of his head.

So we now have a clown with a wad of toilet paper hanging from his ear scraping his finger clean with a knife.
That Eagle flew the next day!

The wives enjoyed the show. No not the TV, they would come running at each chance to join in the louder of the hooting and hollerin from the nights activities in the dungeon.

And A good time was had by all.

These 2 boys were from South La and grew up together flying C/L and managed to stay at same base during service.
After the Base closed they were sent elsewhere and I never heard from them again. Would guess back Home by now.

I miss those boys
Lotta fun!

If you all had as much fun reading this the it was worth the time as I had good fun typing it.

David

[Phil Spillman]

Humor is a marvelous cure all!

Phil Spillman

[john e. holliday]

I remember years ago when CA came into the model airplane world.  A writer for RC Modeler wrote his article for the evaluation of the CA.  He got his test materials ready so he could start gluing.  First peice glued together and he sits the bottle down.  Needless to say it fell from the bench.  Stepped back to retreive it and planted a foot on the bottle.  Well, guess what, glue all over the floor.  Without thinking he grabs a rag and throws it on the glue and steps on it to wipe it up without bending.  We've all done that when we spilled a liquid of some kind.  His foot immediately froze to the spot.  Lucky the shoe didn't leak the glue thru.  So he says here he is with a shoe glued to a rag that is glued to the floor.  After he got everything back to normal, if there is such a thing, he finished his article.

Also for you guys that know Gary Wallace down Springfield MO way ask him about his experiment of squeezing the bottle until all the air is gone and putting your finger over the hole.   And Bill Wright getting first aid with CA after a fibre glas prop sliced his finger open.  I think next time he will go get stitches.   

[W.D. Roland]

Yes..................
When super glue was new 'Satellite City hot stuff'

18 yerrs old minimum age to touch the stuff should have been a requirement......

Teenagers.....locks glued, drawers glued shut, doors, GFs blue jeans glued to butt ox SLAP! that stuff kicked so hard it would burn you.

Walk in parents house to find little brother had glued all sorts of stuff to the ceiling. Stuff that should not have been up there.

We never did get it to hold a car's tires to pavement.
  Wonder if the thick stuff would work?

Gluing myself to airplanes now a days is kind of an anti climax.


David

[Bill Adair]

Learned the hard way that thin CA will wick a very long way, with the grain in balsa! 

No more holding stringers, and braces in place by hand, till the CA sets.

Bill

[Clayton Berry]

Couldn't you just immerse the opposite ends in glue and work out some sort of balance?  You act as if something bad happened. 

Bad is when you only have one good hand, and it is glued to the sheeting of a four foot wing.  And your partner is holding up the bottle of debonder - all the while staying about three feet away.  Laughing.

Wayne Armstrong.  May he rest in peace.

[Brett Buck]

 And Bill Wright getting first aid with CA after a fibre glas prop sliced his finger open.  I think next time he will go get stitches. 

  I've done that, and it works, but boy howdy, it smarts!

    Brett

[Michael Massey]

Have glued my fingers to the balsa (and once together) enough times that when I have to hold and glue now, I wear thin "latex" gloves.  Latex sands off much easier than a layer of skin.

[George]

  I've done that, and it works, but boy howdy, it smarts!

    Brett

Me too...maybe that's why they called it "Hot Stuff". My first thought as it flashed was, "Wish I had used a BandAid"...followed by a few choice words.

George

[GGeezer]

Yes..................
When super glue was new 'Satellite City hot stuff'

18 yerrs old minimum age to touch the stuff should have been a requirement......

Teenagers.....locks glued, drawers glued shut, doors, GFs blue jeans glued to butt ox SLAP! that stuff kicked so hard it would burn you.

Walk in parents house to find little brother had glued all sorts of stuff to the ceiling. Stuff that should not have been up there.

We never did get it to hold a car's tires to pavement.
  Wonder if the thick stuff would work?

Gluing myself to airplanes now a days is kind of an anti climax.


David

I can't resist!

A bratty kid put Super Glue on the toilet seat and promptly stuck his mother to it. Great pandemonium ensued and there didn't seem to be a way of unsticking mom without removing skin so as a last resort, the old man unbolted the seat, covered mom with a long coat and spirited her to the emergency ward whereupon he whipped off the coat and said to the resident, "Well what do you think of that?". "Hmmmmm", said the Doc., "I agree with you, it is nice enough to frame"!

Orv.

[john e. holliday]

Sick, sick, sick.   Was the child able to sit down after you returned home?

[jim ivey]

M.E.K. it'loosen just about anything