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Title: Something interesting WW1 naval history DAZZLE
Post by: GERALD WIMMER on April 06, 2020, 04:03:31 PM

Hello here's an interesting article on Jalopy Journal that you may find interesting, in the comments they relate also to the formation aircraft paint schemes of the 8th Airforce.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/wwi-dazzle.1189648/


Regards Gerald

Title: Re: Something interesting WW1 naval history DAZZLE
Post by: John Miller on April 06, 2020, 06:28:38 PM

Hi Gerald. Similar camo schemes were used on US Navy ships before WW2, and early on in the Atlantic Ocean. It was called "Splinter".

John Miller

Title: Re: Something interesting WW1 naval history DAZZLE
Post by: Tony Drago on April 06, 2020, 07:02:19 PM

They used a couple of P-51s (A-36)with that camo paint scheme. The idea was dropped do to cost and  the time it took to paint them.

Title: Re: Something interesting WW1 naval history DAZZLE
Post by: Larry Renger on April 06, 2020, 10:05:34 PM

Gee, just think how you coul confuse a stunt judge with a scheme like that. Maybe not such a a great plan?  >:D

Title: Re: Something interesting WW1 naval history DAZZLE
Post by: Brett Buck on April 06, 2020, 10:50:40 PM

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on April 06, 2020, 06:37:15 PM

During WW2, on most, but not all ships.  It affected rangefinders as well and many ships appeared farther away than they actually were. Radar made this a waste of time, except to submarines using periscopes. By late 1944,  it was no longer applied. D>K

   Also, the only real threat by that point was kamikaze planes, and it didn't help with that, either.

      The concept is still sound, and "busy" paint jobs on the fuselage can have an influence on how well you can see it and how it looks to the judges. It's possible to take some small advantage of that to emphasize or cover up some of the characteristics. Also, on a small scale, to hide paint defects.

     Brett

Title: Re: Something interesting WW1 naval history DAZZLE
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on April 07, 2020, 11:10:23 AM

 It's possible to take some small advantage of that to emphasize or cover up some of the characteristics. Also, on a small scale, to hide paint defects.

But on all my planes, I don't see defects until AFTER all the painting is done.  By then, it's too late to worry.  But I might try a "dazzle" paint scheme knowing that  my planes will have defects.