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Title: So much for that idea
Post by: David M Johnson on January 09, 2010, 03:17:10 PM
Well I saw it stated that if you don't take a photo of your airplane you'll crash.  I can attest to that. I was given a wrecked Brodak P-40 ARF that needed the center section repaired.  I put it back together with the help from John Brodak.  I called and stated I needed parts and poof there they were.  after putting it back together and putting a OS LA-46 on the nose. I took it to the field for its maiden flight.  It flew great, my first flapped airplane looped smooth, wing over and recovery fantastic, so much better than my Ringmaster.  then the big IDEA... Inverted!  Yep Up is down and down is up.  Smack and silence....  I can say I know why we are required to wear safety thongs.  So back to the drawing board  Thank you for all the posts about the Brodak P-40s and the LA-46s They were a help to get this project into the air.  For the 30 or so laps I was in the air it was the best plane I have flown.  Now if I can just fix the pilot.
Title: Re: So much for that idea
Post by: Leester on January 09, 2010, 03:21:13 PM
I know in todays economy it's easier said than done, but if you can get another one do it. It's like falling off a bike, it's easy  LL~ LL~ LL~
Title: Re: So much for that idea
Post by: Dan McEntee on January 09, 2010, 05:17:25 PM
  OK, two things to think about. In WW-1, it was considered BAD luck to have your photo taken with your airplane, or maybe even just your photo in general. Baron Von Richthofen managed to avoid this right up to a little before his fatal flight. Read that some where, just can't find it right now.
   The second is, when flying inverted, or even upright, think of it as "bottom" and "top." No matter what attitude the model is in, it ALWAYS has a bottom and top, and your handle is the same way. If you are upside down, and getting to low, you need to add "bottom control" and vice-versa for to high. You can hold your hand any way that you feel comfortable, I lay my hand over and hand my palm facing up. Start off with long lazy eights, and just extend that to whole laps inverted, watching the wind as you progress.
  Good luck and have fun!
  Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee
Title: Re: So much for that idea
Post by: Leo Mehl on January 14, 2010, 08:38:07 PM
The first time I rode my bicycle with cleats i kept saying to myself clets cleats cleats and when i stopped the bike i forgot to get out of the pedels and fell over like i knew what I was doing. Is this almost the same thing? HB~> HB~>
Title: Re: So much for that idea
Post by: Serge_Krauss on January 14, 2010, 10:41:17 PM
I surely remember both experiences. On the bike, it was like Artie Johnson on "Laugh In"; those really bruising abrasion causing accidents came at less than a walking pace. My first inverted accident was with a hybrid flapped stunter that made me so comfortable that I had flown several laps inverted at about shoulder height (low for me). I forgot I was inverted and was very surprised at the great silence following the "Whumpf!". I think Dan's advice is good, the other being the "Lazy-Eight" practice, which ties in.

I hope you get another plane like that, because it's these that keep us happy - if we get over the hurdles of inverted flight and perhaps (for me now) corners. 'sorry for your loss!

SK
Title: Re: So much for that idea
Post by: Howard Rush on January 15, 2010, 12:15:15 AM
Riding a bicycle inverted is inefficient, if not painful.
Title: Re: So much for that idea
Post by: Bill Little on January 15, 2010, 06:24:30 PM
Riding a bicycle inverted is inefficient, if not painful.

Hi Howard,

I never did ride my bicycle inverted, but I did manage a couple *ejection seat* types of dismountings........  Hard on the face........ darn pot holes

Mongo