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Title: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Ty Marcucci on February 15, 2011, 10:52:13 PM

I received a call from my local hobby shop and was informed my four quarts of SIG Lite Clear had arrived. Whooza. 29.95 a quart. :-\

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Steve Hines on February 15, 2011, 10:56:37 PM

When I called Sig in January, they said it would be shipping in March. A little early good.

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Bill Little on February 16, 2011, 07:30:40 AM

Hi Chief,

THIRTY BUCKS A QUART?? ???????????????  (looks like Randolph Certified, etc., ............ from here on out! LOL!!)

That's $120 a gallon........... can use high priced automotive paints for less........

Just checked Aircraft Spruce, Randolph butyrate clear starts at ~$40 a gallon.  the non tautening butyrate clear is $43.40 a GALLON........  non tautening TINTED butyrate Clear is $43,60 per gallon.

I have always loved Sig Lite Coat, and I know Sig has to make a profit to stay in business, etc., etc., but at three times the price of a comparable product, I just can't do it anymore...........

Big Bear

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Bill Little on February 16, 2011, 07:41:41 AM

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on February 16, 2011, 07:37:16 AM

Can you say "add lots of thinner and stretch it out?".  OH, yes, a tad spensive, but does Randolp make a Lite coat clear? D>K

Hi Ty,

I just edited my post while you were typing! LOL!!  Check it out..........

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/randbutytinted.php

Bill

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Bill Little on February 16, 2011, 07:43:55 AM

The link is for what the Lite Coat is (with tint added).  They supply it with out tint, also.  I have always understood that Sig is made by Randolph, maybe not??

Big bear

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Bill Little on February 16, 2011, 07:53:03 AM

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on February 16, 2011, 07:44:53 AM

Great. New stuff and I already have an account with them. Guess where my next order goes.  D>K

Can't beat their shipping.  Last order was placed on Monday, got it on Wednesday.  And I understan a gallon now ships for the same price as a quart regarding the Haz Mat charges.  It USED TO BE cheaper to buy 4 quarts because of Haz Mat shipping.  The "total" cost would be cheaper.

Big Bear

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Alan Resinger on February 16, 2011, 09:30:35 AM

Guys,
I've posted this before.  What you want from Randolph is Stock # A-1690. That is Randolph's untinted, non-tautening clear.  They have 2 non-tautening clears and the one you have posted is the W-8350 which is tinted.  It is no good for final clear coats.
Alan Resinger

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Randy Powell on February 16, 2011, 09:43:37 AM

I use either Randolph's or Certified depending on my mood and the current price when I order. Either works great and is a lot cheaper. Just to clarify, the non-taunting stuff IS Lite Coat.

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Bill Little on February 16, 2011, 10:18:43 AM

Quote from: Alan Resinger on February 16, 2011, 09:30:35 AM

Guys,
I've posted this before.  What you want from Randolph is Stock # A-1690. That is Randolph's untinted, non-tautening clear.  They have 2 non-tautening clears and the one you have posted is the W-8350 which is tinted.  It is no good for final clear coats.
Alan Resinger

HI Alan

Thanks for the info.  We have all posted similar info before.   Of course I knew the link I posted was for tinted.  IN fact it says "tinted" in big letters! LOL!!  Just happened to be the page I was on while looking it up for Ty. ;D

Of course, if you want a semi transparent blueish (or is it amber??) finish on bare wood, you could use the tinted.......... ;D  I use tinted dope for all my substrate and try to use plain old "clear" for final coats.  

Big Bear

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Steve Fitton on February 16, 2011, 06:01:06 PM

Wow, the going rate for Sig is 30 bucks a quart now?  That hurts!

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Tom Rounds on February 16, 2011, 06:10:29 PM

I just ordered the following from Aircraft Spruce,
1 Gal Certified Butyrate thinner  $25.90
1 Gal Certified Butyrate Clear Non Taut dope 39.50
FedEx shipping to Orlando 11.80 no hazmat fees
 I was told that they can ship 2 gallons or 4 quarts in a box with no hazmat fees.
Good to know!
Tom

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: James Mills on February 16, 2011, 07:41:03 PM

Have any of you guys tried Dupont 3608S thinner with the Randolph clear (since it will work well with either Lite Cote or Brodak)?

James

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Leester on February 16, 2011, 07:59:31 PM

Sigs web site shows Lite Coat at 24.99 a quart, regular Supercoat clear is 15.99 a quart. Looks like the hobby shop is the reason for the higher price, but they have bills to pay also, minimum order amounts, shipping etc..

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Rafael Gonzalez on February 16, 2011, 08:35:56 PM

Has anyone tried the Prestec High Gloss Poly at their site (Aircraft Spruce)? It is a little expensive, but I looked over at the data and it dries pretty fast. I might give it a try if mine comes out decent enough... S?P

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Randy Powell on February 16, 2011, 08:44:54 PM

I've used 3608S with Randolph's before. Worked fine. But I prefer to use the thinner that is designed for the paint.

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on February 17, 2011, 08:19:30 AM

I've used all 3 brands of dope over the years. (No Brodak) Never used any thinner other than 3608S or 3602S...

No problem!


Ward-O

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: larry borden on February 17, 2011, 09:56:16 AM

I've been using the Dupont thinner and it works great. I use Randolph dope, Brodak primer and crystal clear.

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Bill Little on February 18, 2011, 01:29:11 AM

Quote from: James Mills on February 16, 2011, 07:41:03 PM

Have any of you guys tried Dupont 3608S thinner with the Randolph clear (since it will work well with either Lite Cote or Brodak)?

James

HI JAmes,

The "Blind Hog" here.  For more than 20 years I have been using 3608S in ALL my dope (all brands, butyrate/nitrate) products on the advice of Windy Urtnowski.  :o  I have not seen a problem, maybe someone else has but I would like to know what it is.  I have never been told why it is a bad idea, and the paint has never known the difference.  (and a guy that has had multiple 20 Appearance Point winners might know a bit or two about model painting.) ;D

There is a Dupont 3608"V"S that I will not touch..  That "V" messes everything up! LL~

Big Bear

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: John Lindberg on February 18, 2011, 08:00:41 AM

Yeh, I think I got hold of some of that "V" type thinner, took quite awhile to fix the problems it caused.  HB~>

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: RC Storick on February 18, 2011, 09:34:44 AM

I have 2 quarts of Aerogloss clear. Still good. but no thinner. Anyone know what thinner works with aerogloss besides aerogloss?

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: billbyles on February 18, 2011, 12:19:48 PM

Quote from: Bill Little on February 18, 2011, 01:29:11 AM

HI JAmes,

The "Blind Hog" here.  For more than 20 years I have been using 3608S in ALL my dope (all brands, butyrate/nitrate) products on the advice of Windy Urtnowski.  :o  I have not seen a problem, maybe someone else has but I would like to know what it is.  I have never been told why it is a bad idea, and the paint has never known the difference.  (and a guy that has had multiple 20 Appearance Point winners might know a bit or two about model painting.) ;D

There is a Dupont 3608"V"S that I will not touch..  That "V" messes everything up! LL~

Big Bear

Hi Bill, just to clarify the DuPont nomenclature it is the "V3608S" that will not work in dope...just gives you a stringy mess in the can.  Not only that buit it won't even clean you spray gun.  While the original 3608S & 3602S thinners will work fine for our models (a relatively small area to paint), it dries too fast for application on a full-scale airplane (even the 3602S slow).

Title: Re: SIG Lite Coat clear
Post by: Bill Little on February 18, 2011, 12:29:37 PM

Thanks, Bill!  I knew you have the low down on this stuff from what you do for a "living". ;D

The "V" stuff must be for the low VOC requirements or something....... ???  I DID get a gallon of it once, and took about 120 ounces of it back.  Not good for anything I tried to use it for, and found that out quickly! LL~

And when I was actually painting full size automobiles, I only used the same manufacturers stuff all the way through. ;D

Big Bear