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Offline Ty Marcucci

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What do you call....
« on: March 06, 2019, 07:35:05 AM »
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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2019, 07:36:44 AM »
Watch Windy videos and take alot of naps :)

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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2019, 08:10:56 AM »
Ty    I think you got it "Net Pals"      I do believe many on here are in that group doing a lot of Net talking and not much flying.
  Most of my flying the last two years is on here Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ Z@@ZZZ
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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2019, 09:45:11 AM »
It's too cold and windy to even go out to the garage let alone fly, so sitting here a thought popped up in my old brain.  Two people that chose to communicate via the written word sent via the post office are called "pen pals".  But what do you call two or more persons that communicate via the net?  E net pals?  Lonely nerds? Sitting in mom's basement lonely dorks?  What??  Come on spring. I can't keep this up. LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~
Get a space heater and build something.  Then when spring comes you can add it to the rest of the unfinished projects because it is "TIME TO FLY!" H^^

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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2019, 10:25:05 AM »
I have more planes that I will ever need. Although I still have plenty of balsa all graded and all sizes. But I am lover of old spark motors. So I buy one off the bay every so often to restore to original condition. That keeps me busy enough through the winter. When spring comes I have several to break in.

I keep watching for a beater tether car to restore, but they all go for way more than what I want to spend.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2019, 11:37:23 AM »
I do use a space heater, but by the time I'm warm, the epoxy, dope and glues are still too cold to use. Did get some building done the other day when it hit 56F.  y1 #^ #^
Tell me about it.  I forgot about the temperature of the Epoxy last night and 5min set up in about 2min while I was smoothing out a CF patch.  Never seen Epoxy go from liquid to gummy then hard that fast.  I was able to sand it after 10 min...what?  Next time the Epoxy and paint goes in front of the heater before I do.  56 - that is flying temperature, what were you doing building?

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2019, 07:38:02 PM »
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I do use a space heater, but by the time I'm warm, the epoxy, dope and glues are still too cold to use. Did get some building done the other day when it hit 56F.  y1 #^ #^

Glue Fridge .

Father had a old little ' lab fridge ' converted with a lectric lightbulb in it , to maintain a even temperature ( 26 deg. C. ? )
for his model yacht epoxies & resins .

Differance here , 2 hours to over 24 , summer winter , for epoxy to ' kick off ' .So stabilised core temp. would seem fairly usefull .

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2019, 07:03:13 PM »
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your "short hand" leaves me a tad confused.

I will try Morse Code ; , ... _ , ... _ .

 

 ;D.

o.k.

He had a small ' Lab Fridge ' , about 1 foot x 1 foot x 1 foot , outside dimensions .
A old 50's crackle finish gold / grey paint .
I think he put a reverse function -micro switch , On when Cool - Off when hot , from the antique thermostadt  ,
a old pressure / temperature metal bulb/ cylinder - in the small metal tube original cooling set up .

Put a 100 Watt Light Bulb in it up the top - contected to the electricity . Volia ! ,

Could be set to  60 - 70 Deg. Fahrenheit  , or 16 - 20 Deg. Celcius .
With the Glues & resins stored in it , they were at optimum mixing temperature .

As an aside , in the olde dayes , at Browns Bay , Auckland . The Temp for a month or so was below 16 Deg. Celcius
and the Aerolite could be a bother . The air was blue , like when the newly arrived timber was being stacked / stored .

The 16 Deg. was the minimum for succesful glueing , in yachts / keelers . Thus theyed get on with other things , midwinter
if it was prolonged theyed have months of componentry ready for laminateing / fitting when the weather came right .



There was a balls up on one of these , when the apprentice had got the wrong three front frames from the loft ,
However as it was for open water sailing , and the frames were a deeper / sharper ' V ' , it was decided
' Shell be Right '.  :-X

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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2019, 08:33:53 AM »
I have Tinnitus and severe hearing loss from copying code for four years in the Air Force.  I was a ditty bop (Morse Code Intercept Operator) and DF operator.  We had Navy CTs that worked with us in the shop.  Took me years just to get a 10% disability from the VA and a set of hearing aids.  Was denied twice on appeal and finally had to get an advocate involved to get the hearing aids.

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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2019, 12:52:02 PM »
I have Tinnitus and severe hearing loss from copying code for four years in the Air Force.  I was a ditty bop (Morse Code Intercept Operator) and DF operator.  We had Navy CTs that worked with us in the shop.  Took me years just to get a 10% disability from the VA and a set of hearing aids.  Was denied twice on appeal and finally had to get an advocate involved to get the hearing aids.

Mike
How long ago did you get the disability?  My son in law is an Army major in the field medical business (M.A.S.H.).  He told me that they just started recognizing Tinnitus.  I have had a serious case following 6 years on the flight line just inches from running turbines.   All the ear protection in the world can't keep that noise out.  Is there a time limit>  I got out in '74 and was told basically "sorry about that"  I have to sleep with a radio on.

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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2019, 01:21:21 PM »
How long ago did you get the disability?  My son in law is an Army major in the field medical business (M.A.S.H.).  He told me that they just started recognizing Tinnitus.  I have had a serious case following 6 years on the flight line just inches from running turbines.   All the ear protection in the world can't keep that noise out.  Is there a time limit>  I got out in '74 and was told basically "sorry about that"  I have to sleep with a radio on.

Thanks for the tip - Ken

Hi Ken,

I really have empathy for you because I know what you are going through.  Ken, I was discharged in 1973 and really didn't notice the ringing and clicking in  my ears for several years afterwards.  By the way, Our barracks was not far from the end of the runway where the F4s would take off but my damage was caused from wearing headsets for four years listening to code.

I first applied for some help in 2005 and was promptly denied..  I appealed again and was denied again.  Then in 2015 I ran into a man at the gym where I was going who used to work for the VA and was now an advocate for veterans to help them get benefits.  He and I went to the local VA office and they told me how to fill the forms out and what to say on them and I submitted them.  After some time they called me from the VA and told me they had approved me for 10% disability and wanted me to come to the VA hearing lab to be fitted for hearing aids, which I did.

Ken I am not aware of any time limit and I had to really fight to get anything out of the VA and without this man (Advocate) I doubt if I would have gotten them.  I had several independent hearing tests over the years with the same results, moderate to severe hearing loss.  When the VA finally gave me the test, the moderate had disappeared and it was just severe.

I know guys who worked on the flight line who have the same problem as you and I and sometimes the damage does not appear for years down the road. 

It is a damn shame that veterans have to fight to get help for damage to their bodies that were directly related and caused by the job they did in the service.  I think it has gotten some better under Trump but it couldn't have gotten much worse.

The hearing aids help some but the damage is permanent and will never go away.  It had gotten to the point where I could not understand what the people on TV were saying. It almost sounded like they were speaking a foreign language.  People will talk to you and you hear them but cannot understand what they are saying.  It is miserable.

Anyway, I don't know if any of this will help you but I would try to find a VA Advocate or someone who knows how to fill the forms out the way they want them.  Do not try and do it on line.  Go to the VA office in person.

I wish you the best and I know how you suffer with this.

Mike

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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 05:05:06 PM »
Hi Ken,

I really have empathy for you because I know what you are going through.  Ken, I was discharged in 1973 and really didn't notice the ringing and clicking in  my ears for several years afterwards.  By the way, Our barracks was not far from the end of the runway where the F4s would take off but my damage was caused from wearing headsets for four years listening to code.
Yours may be worse than mine.  What I  hear is the whine of a j79 at idle 24/7.  Those f-4's make a racket taking off but it's when they are at idle that they whine.  I will find an advocate and see what I can do.  Thanks for the advice.

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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2019, 10:09:00 PM »
My hearing was permanently damaged in my teens. Joined the AF at 17 and was assigned to a Matador unit in Orlando after tech school, then to Germany with the 11th TMS. The Matador had an Allison J33A37 engine and a 68,000 pound thrust RATO bottle to kick it off a zero length launcher. Went from 0 to 250 mph in 2.5 seconds!

I was a guidance technician on a combat launch crew, so we had plenty of engine noise during simulated launches. A bigger problem was system checkout at the engine run shack, where we did a power transfer at 104% throttle and switched to internal missile power, while monitoring the guidance system for any drop outs.

Of course the engine run crew operated from a sound proof room adjacent to the missile, but never thought to provide ear protection for us guidance types standing outside, and closer to the engine tail pipe! One ten minute blast of very painful noise, followed by many hours of strange silence because we could no longer hear!
That was my first tour of duty, and I could never pass another hearing test without cheating.

When I retired in 1975 the AF personal that did my separation physical were astounded that my hearing went from normal, to a severe loss, in less than the year or so since my last hearing test!  ;D

Boeing paid for my first hearing aides, but they were next to useless. Went years after retirement from Boeing thinking the VA didn't cover aides, but met a condo neighbor about ten years ago who told me they had changed coverage to include hearing aides. My oldest daughter was unrelenting when dealing with authorities, so she made the call to the VA. Next thing I knew I had an appointment at the VA. A month or so later I went back to be fitted for my new Oticon aides. Best aides money can buy, and free batteries for life included. I'm told the aides get replaced later this year. I could not be happier with the VA.

Some months later I was told I had another hearing test and interview, with a civilian VA contractor in Portland. Went in fearing I might lose my hearing coverage, but what they were most interested in was my mention of possible Tinnitus during my first VA physical. After the testing and interview they told me they suspected I did have Tinnitus, and were sending the test results to the VA. Next thing I knew, I had a 40% disability from the VA.

My Tinnitus symptoms are strange, but I guess real enough. My symptoms are constant 60 cycle noise, but that is easily masked by music (like you Ken), or any other constant noise. The overriding sound that I can't mask is the music they play at end of day on military installations, or at military funerals. It's a beautiful bugle number, and out of nowhere I hear it as if I were standing in formation near the bugle player! The source for this must have been the base PA system speaker that was just outside my barracks window for years. No insulated windows then, so I heard Taps played at high volume every night I was in my room.

Unfortunately, my hearing comprehension can't be helped by any hearing aides, and I've been watching TV with captioning turned on and sound turned off for many years.

Wish you luck Ken! Mike is right though, request a VA advocate before you apply for benefits. If nothing else they will help you get past most of the negativity of far too many medical and administrative personnel still hanging on at the VA. Appointments are slow to get with the VA because of the work load, but I can't complain about the service.

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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2019, 10:47:59 PM »
My Tinnitus symptoms are strange, but I guess real enough. My symptoms are constant 60 cycle noise, but that is easily masked by music (like you Ken), or any other constant noise. The overriding sound that I can't mask is the music they play at end of day on military installations, or at military funerals. It's a beautiful bugle number, and out of nowhere I hear it as if I were standing in formation near the bugle player! The source for this must have been the base PA system speaker that was just outside my barracks window for years. No insulated windows then, so I heard Taps played at high volume every night I was in my room.
Everyone in my family thinks I am faking it since I can hear some things perfectly well and others not at all.  What you just described is almost exactly what I go through daily.  When I tell them about the random music playing in my head their eyes roll.  You do learn to deal with it but it would be nice if others would learn to deal with us too!

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2019, 08:33:02 AM »
I worked on those same J-79's then 40 years in machine shops.  What hearing loss?😊. I have noticed it getting worse in the past year.  I try not to say huh too much.


Mike

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Re: What do you call....
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2019, 12:28:04 PM »
1973 Field Artillery
1979-1995 Aviation Helicopter maintenance
VA in 1995 severe hearing loss 0 percent--- acute Tinnitus 10%

Sometimes the voices in my head are real

All the hearing aids I have been fitted for just amplify the tinnitus
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2019, 07:41:40 PM »
The VA assessment of no disability for hearing loss defies all logic.

Now I think under scrutiny they have finally joined the real world, and consider even moderate loss a handicap.

Fred,

I can't prove my opinion stated above, but you should contact the VA advocates, and contest that original assessment. Chances are they will come to their senses, and upgrade your disability percentage accordingly.

I never expected 40% in my case, but then thought about all the job opportunities lost to me, because I could not hear well. In WA state (where we lived for thirty years), I was called for jury duty for the first time in my life. During the selection hearings I told them one of my hearing aides had stopped working, and that one of the female lawyers addressing the potential jury pool was not getting through to me. I couldn't understand anything she said!!!! Later I got notification that I was permanently exempt from jury duty in WA state. We moved to OR about fifteen years ago, and I didn't even have to ask for an exemption, because seniors have the option to decline jury duty in OR.

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2019, 08:20:50 AM »
I have selective hearing loss. Wife wants what????????????? Free food OK OK OK H^^

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