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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Crist Rigotti on June 26, 2011, 07:08:34 PM
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SIG had their 29th Annual Control Line Contest this weekend. I'd like to thank Mike Gretz and all the great people at SIG that made this a great contest. With OTS, Classic, and Profile flown on Saturday and PAMPA classes flown on Sunday. Saturday's weather was cold, wet, and at times windy. In spite of the weather, we got both rounds in all the events. Saturday evening we were treated to very nice BBQ and everyone left full. Well done SIG! Sunday was warmer but pretty breezy. We got both rounds in though there were a lot of passes after several crashes on the Advanced circle.
I forgot my camera but I managed to get some pictures of the scoreboard from today. I didn't get Saturday's scores, sorry. If someone has those please post them. All-in-all we had a good time and it was nice to see everybody again especially after being rained out last year.
The people at SIG are very special and they surely enjoyed hosting this contest. Well done SIG and Mike Gretz!
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Thank you very much to Hazel Sig, Mike Gretz, the new Sig owner group, and everyone else involved in making the Sig contest happen. With six circles going all weekend long, it's always a great time and a weekend that I really look forward to each year.
I just got home a short time ago myself. Oh, and yes, as Crist mentioned more than a few folks had a rough weekend. These are just a few of them...
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Dan McEntee and Bob Arata arrrived with TEN planes crammed in the van with all other necessities packed as well... ;D
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Here are some others having some better luck...
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Some more great models...
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...and more...
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And in case anyone was wondering, Sig had plenty of fuel for sale... ;D
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Always a sad time for me, packing the truck to head back home...
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Thanks Hazel! y1
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One of my favorite contest. Wanted to be there, but it was just to close to the Scale Nats. Maybe next year. Thanks for the scores and pictures.
Blessings
Allen
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I think this was my 24th straight year, not counting last years cancellation. I love getting away to Iowa and the trials and tribulations of everyday life to visit with my friends at SIG Field. This was the 40th anniversary of SIG Field and the 60th Anniversary of SIG Manufacturing. SIG is a HUGE part of model aviation history and you just get the feeling of that when you are standing on the grass strip there. After reading all the SIG adds through my early years using their products, it was a real thrill for me when we made the first trip there in 1987 and that has carried over year after year. One year we got to see Hazel fly the Clipped Wing Cub and fly formation with Maxey Hester in the Spacewalker. Next year I want to try and have a Skyray carrier model finished and try that for something different. Thanks for the report Crist, and posting the great pictures Wayne, and always glad to see and talk with the groups from Minnesota and see your fine workmanship. I dropped Bob off about 7PM CDT and I got home about 8. Just sat on the couch and dozed off a bit, then it actually only took about 25 minutes to unload the van. I miss the old blue Ford aircraft carrier, but this new one is going to work out fine. With just a little planning, I got EVERYTHING in the mini-van that I take every year to SIG, and the rack that I used to prop up the wings of the models is actually the one I used in the Ford that I cut in half length ways. So a little bit of the old rig lives on in the new one. Let me know in advance if you plan to come down in September.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Florissant, MO
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Thanks for the report from the SIG contest. It is one of the best and I have missed too many of them. Hazel is one great lady also. Also glad to see Dan and Bob from St Louie getting out more. Thanks also for the great pictures. H^^
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OUCH!!!
The crash of the electric model brings a new definition to crash and burn. And thats the effect of a crash on grass? Looks like the entire power train is toast as well as the battery. Seems like a good Idea to stick with IC until your crashing phase is over. Most times with a IC crash on grass, you just clean out the debris from the engine and you are good to go, very rare when a IC motor is beyond help after a crash, not to mention the tank. Those nearly never get damaged.
Sad to see anyones wrecked airplane but that must hurt double.
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Great job at the SIG meet. Our Paducah R/C Charity Fly-In raised just under $800 for the Dream Factory. Keep 'em flyin' in Iowa.
Allen Brickhaus
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I should get a few pics posted as I have time.
Fred
1st pic is Crist Rigotti prepping for a flight with Mike Schmitt's plane in the background.
2nd pic is Crist's e-powered stunter during inverted laps.
3rd pic - Bob Arata releasing Dan McEntee's "Charmer".
4th pic - Dan's "Charmer" noses over slightly, throwing cut grass at Bob.
5th pic - Bob's reaction to the almost disaster.
6th pic - Dan's "Charmer" in flight.
7th pic - Bob McDonald flying his PA-75 powered plane to 1st place in PAMPA Expert.
8th pic - Judges Randi Gifford and Bill Calkins watch Bob McDonald's plane during inverted flight.
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More pics added.
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OUCH!!!
The crash of the electric model brings a new definition to crash and burn. And thats the effect of a crash on grass? Looks like the entire power train is toast as well as the battery. Seems like a good Idea to stick with IC until your crashing phase is over. Most times with a IC crash on grass, you just clean out the debris from the engine and you are good to go, very rare when a IC motor is beyond help after a crash, not to mention the tank. Those nearly never get damaged.
Sad to see anyones wrecked airplane but that must hurt double.
Crashing is bad enough without the fire! With the way those guys are going through ESCs I would stay away from flying electric period! Seems like every day I see a new thread where someones electric setup has gone bad. Reliable? Think I'll stick with Good old (flat earth) IC.
Fire + Plane = Not for me!
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A few more pics:
1st pic - Expert Judges, Randi Gifford and Bill Calkins focused on a pattern. Art Johnson in the background.
2nd pic - Advanced judges, Bob Baldus and Jim Schuett prepare to judge a flight.
3rd pic - Alan Hahn's e-Vector in flight.
4th pic - Advanced flier's plane in landing approach
5th pic - Mike Schmitt releasing Dennis VanderKuur's "Legacy".
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Melvin Schuette presenting an electronic picture frame to Hazel Sig. This was programmed with a slide show of past SIG events with musical background of "Thanks for the memories".
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Thanks for the pics Fred! H^^ I'm already counting the days 'til next year.
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OFFICIAL RESULTS
2011 SIG CONTROL-LINE CHAMPIONSHIPS
June 25-26, 2011
Sig Field Montezuma, Iowa
Contest Director: Mike Gretz
STUNT EVENTS
Scorers: Paula Smith
Old Time Stunt
1st place Dan McEntee 263.0
2nd place Crist Rigotti 261.0
3rd place Mike Schmitt 257.0
Judges: Keith Sandberg, Wayne Willey
Classic Stunt
1st place Bob McDonald 531.5
2nd place Mike Schmitt 517.0
3rd place Dan McEntee 516.5
Judges: Paul McIllrath, Crist Rigotti
Profile Stunt
1st place Dennis Vander Kurr 560.5
2nd place Crist Rigotti 553.0
3rd place Keith Sandberg 549.0
Judges: Skip Spoula, Bob Arata
PAMPA Beginner
1st place Bill Allen 194.5
2nd place Christian Spoula 36.0
3rd place none
Judges: Bob Arata, Art Johnson
PAMPA Intermediate
1st place Matt Spoula 434.0
2nd place Wade Pearson 391.0
3rd place none
Judges: Bob Arata, Art Johnson
PAMPA Advanced
1st place Greg Voumard 533.5
2nd place Tom Polk 527.5
3rd place Scott Molck 516.5
Judges: Jim Schuett, Bob Baldus
PAMPA Expert
1st place Bob McDonald 576.0
2nd place Jim Schuett 575.0
3rd place Jim Lee 571.5
Judges: Randi Gifford, Bill Calkins
NAVY CARRIER EVENTS
Event Director: Brenda Schuette
Class I
1st place Pete Mazur 400.24
2nd place Paul Kegel 218.19
3rd place Art Johnson 194.65
Class II
1st place Pete Mazur 364.16
2nd place Paul Kegel 293.80
3rd place Art Johnson 284.86
Profile
1st place Pete Mazur 335.36
2nd place Melvin Schuette 218.33
3rd place Skip Spoula 204.34
Skyray 35
1st place Pete Mazur 247.72
2nd place Melvin Schuette 208.59
3rd place Art Johnson 191.70
COMBAT EVENTS
Event Director: Mal Fawley
Speed Limit Combat
1st place Chris Gay
2nd place Mike Palermo
3rd place Bob Burch
1/2A Combat
1st place Mike Palmero
2nd place Dave Wicker
3rd place Bob Burch
GLEN SIG "FIREBALL" AWARD
Paul Kegel
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A special "Thank You" to all the great folks who volunteered to judge and run the events. We could not have this contest without you!
Thanks,
Mike
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Mike,
Thank you and all the folks at SIG, Mfg. for a wonderful event!
Hope to see you soon,
Fred
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My favorite weekend of the year, see you in '12! y1
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The electric that crashed and burned at SIG was mine. I wanted to take the time to clean out the motor and test everything before I responded to some of the posts made with regard to electric being inferior to IC because in a crash like this you are automatically out big bucks. Well, I just took the motor apart and cleaned out the mud. Put it all together on a test stand, and after changing the $10 timer, it is running just like it did before the crash. Same motor, same ESC. I am out a $25 battery and a $10 timer. The battery had about 20 flights on it, but it could easily have had a couple of hundred, depending on where it was in the life cycle. This one just happened to be relatively new. So, even if one has not quite gotten over crashing on occassion, I don't think that is a valid reason to avoid electric. The 20 flights I had on that airplane were the equivilent to 30 or more on an IC airplane from a practice standpoint, because every flight was the same. No need to tach the engine before release or wonder if the heat or humidity was going to affect the needle setting. Just hook up the battery, punch the button and fly, with a 5.25 second lap time every time. There were many days flying IC where I put in 3 or 4 flights before I got a good needle setting and felt comfortable doing the pattern. While I hate loosing an airplane, my next will definitely be electric.
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Well stated. Electric is here and I myself will have one as soon as I get enough together. H^^
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I have converted a sport model (11 lbs, 80" span) to electric and have two more electric models being built with electric in mind. I only have one other model that will get glow power (B-29, due to cost). Electric is the way to go, you just need to change your ways of doing things. I am considering projects that I never would have considered with glow power. I was flying my Piper Cub back in 1997 with an Astro flight 40 Geared brushed motor and a 21 cell Nicad pack and saw the potential back then, once the brushless and Lipo's came out that really changed the game.
12 years ago models were designed for glow power and you had to convert the models to electric. Now models are designed for electric and you have to convert them to glow. One of the british scale designers, Tony Nijhuis has a B-17 and a Sunderland for RC scale and under glow power it says NOT RECOMMENDED and he recommends electric power for his designs. Electric allows you to hide the motor in cowls that in other situations that expose the engine head and muffler. I will probably continue to fly glow power, but any new model will be built for electric first and only put in a glow engine under limited use.
Land Softly,
Fred Cronewett