Author Topic: SHOP SIZE (Read 8471 times)

proparc · « **on:** October 27, 2010, 02:48:27 PM »

In terms of actual square feet, how big is your shop and, do you consider it adequate for your needs?

If not, what would you like to have, again, in terms of actual square feet, or dimensions
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builditright · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2010, 03:20:06 PM »

Quote from: proparc on October 27, 2010, 02:48:27 PM

In terms of actual square feet, how big is your shop and, do you consider it adequate for your needs?

If not, what would you like to have, again, in terms of actual square feet?

don't know the sq. footage but I have.

1- two car garage (the whole garage)
1- 12x30 building (two rooms)
1- guest shower

and I still do not enough room

sadly the wife said the shower was as far as she would allow me to go in the actual house, she was kidding but I wasn't so I took her up on it and there's actually two plans sitting in the spare shower.
How sad is that?

Bootlegger · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2010, 03:33:49 PM »

I'm with Walter, mine is 288 sq ft and it ain't big enuf..

john e. holliday · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2010, 03:46:31 PM »

Mine is 12 foot by 20 foot and is not big enough. The city and family wouldn't let me put in the 20 X 40 foot building that was 12 foot to the roof.

Larry Wong · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2010, 04:03:26 PM »

I have a 13'x30' and it to small, plus I have a 15x15 Paint shead. with all the equipment like drill press band saw, jig saw, sander, compressor,paint cabinet for sprayers , paint small jigs an a tool box all the space is used up. Were does on put the finished planes! ( Inside the house in the spare bed room of course) then we all have another hobby I have a car plus parts and, and, and ,

builditright · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2010, 04:12:34 PM »

Quote from: Larry Wong on October 27, 2010, 04:03:26 PM

I have a 13'x30' and it to small, plus I have a 15x15 Paint shead. with all the equipment like drill press band saw, jig saw, sander, compressor,paint cabinet for sprayers , paint small jigs an a tool box all the space is used up. Were does on put the finished planes! ( Inside the house in the spare bed room of course) then we all have another hobby I have a car plus parts and, and, and ,

Gee Larry since we're making lists...
I have

1 pk of 4-40 bolts, 2 pks blind nuts, 3 sheets of sand paper (the sticky back type), 4 screw drivers, etc...

Allan Perret · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2010, 04:17:22 PM »

I have a 2 car garage. Not big enough. If I was going to build a dedicated shop, for my modeling and woodworking, it would be something like 30 x 30 or 20 x 40.

proparc · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2010, 04:19:31 PM »

Quote from: Larry Wong on October 27, 2010, 04:03:26 PM

Were does on put the finished planes! (

That's the problem!!! When you have a shop, there is going to be output. That output HAS to go somewhere. The better your shop and techniques, the better your output, and the more you have a problem.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2010, 05:00:04 PM »

Mine's about 650 square feet with a very high ceiling and storage closet. The plane go up in the rafters as it were. Storage for 7 planes. I generally give away older stuff or put it in storage in the house. I mostly have enough room but am considering adding a paint booth.

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2010, 05:28:00 PM »

It'll never be big enough

Mine is 30 X 40 divided into areas for the different stuff I like to do. Would like to have a dedicated paint booth and a dedicated metal working/welding room. Another 10 to 12 foot down the 40 foot side would be pretty nice.

Larry Renger · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2010, 05:55:32 PM »

1 bay of a 3 car garage. But I had it walled off and insulated plus lighting and power outlets galore. Power tools are a grinder, 12" disc sander, 1" Belt Sander, Drill press, small table saw (Harbor Freight 4" blade one), Harbor Freight small cut-off saw, 12" Band Saw, Toyo lathe and mill. Each power tool except the Band Saw is on a roll-around, 5 drawer cabinet. Wall hanging cabinets are over where the tools are kept. 8 ft high cabinet on the opposite wall with two low cabinets beside it. Multi drawer parts bin hung on the wall. Crowded!

My wife asked me if I need "all that stuff". I replied that probably only 30%, but I don't know WHICH 30%!

Jim Oliver · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2010, 06:15:12 PM »

18' X 28'--------it ain't big enough; I can only work on 3 or 4 models at the same time......

dennis lipsett · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2010, 06:20:37 PM »

My workshop runs the length and width of my house. Unfortunately I have it filled to the rafters with kits, engines,wood, models,tools,accessories,etc. No room to paint, no windows either for that matter.hardly enough room for me, and never enough room for all of the projects. I remember when I redid the house and all of that area was clear anbd I thought that I'd be in good shape for awhile. That was true but it was such a short while. We all dispair of an open space and rush to fill it with something. Now that I'm retired it can only get much worse.
dennis

Randy Ryan · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2010, 06:28:09 PM »

675 square feet, in an L shape in the basement. Nowhere near enough space.

Leester · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2010, 06:55:02 PM »

Let's see, a 20X20 garage a 10X20 enclosed porch and parts of 2 spare bed rooms and any place else in the house I may need at the time. Is it enough room... HE%& NO !! Did I mention I've been divorced twice

and that was before I took up airplanes

afml · « **Reply #15 on:** October 27, 2010, 09:44:52 PM »

"plus a possum in the neighbors pear tree, "

So THAT'S how the song goes!!!!

All this time I thought it was a Partridge!

"Tight Lines!"

Wes

Clint Ormosen · « **Reply #16 on:** October 27, 2010, 11:13:12 PM »

Every plane I build comes out of a 7'x20' shop. So I guess thats about 140 sq ft. It's a little cramped and I can really only have one plane going at a time. I would love more space, but there really isn't anywhere for me to go unless I start kicking VW's out of my garage.

David Shad · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2010, 04:43:57 AM »

Mine is also a 2 car garage...adequate but the wife still insists her car deserves half...what's up with that!!!
but I get by...I have some wall racks that hold the keepers and the not so keepers end up in the attic or are
passed on to someone who can use them...lately I have been giving or selling a lot of the old engines and I
should get rid of the kits that I know i'll never build...maybe we should do a thread on all the junk we should
pass on to other guys here who want to store it for a few years...I would bet money there is a LOT. I mean
really...I am going to be 58 in a few months...I think I have projects for at least 50 years. But can we let it
go?

? The million dollar question. OH...the original question...22 by 22 garage...hot in the summer and cold
in the winter...but its mine.

afml · « **Reply #18 on:** October 28, 2010, 05:02:13 AM »

"Next to the pear tree is a big fig tree."

Figgy Pudding??

"Tight Lines!"

Wes

Bill Heher · « **Reply #19 on:** October 28, 2010, 06:46:28 AM »

I get 1/2 an 18 X 20 2 car garage (modern 2 car- no way 2 60/70 era cars would fit). So about 200 sq ft. Peg board above an 8' long bench on 1 wall, (under 2' of "stuff").

Some cabinets on back wall, planes hanging from ceiling on racks, and stacked up on almost every horizontal surface, a rolling bench and various stands / tools boxes, etc seperate my 1/2 from the rest of " that junk" - you know mowers, edgers, other stuff that keeps a house from falling in on itself.

oh yeah - And a building board with a framed up Twister wing under the Futon in the spare bedroom, and a 1/2A plane on a desk in the "office", boxes of engines in a closet to get them out of the humidity, and a plane or 2 + pit stuff in Portland, Phoenix, Albuquerque, - so I guess I am using a bit of space at 2 or 3 other peoples house!

david beazley · « **Reply #20 on:** October 29, 2010, 06:11:09 AM »

My father had a formula for figuring the needed space for a workshop/garage. Measure all the floor space for items needed in the shop (tools, benches, cabinets, shelves, etc) double it...and it's still too small!

John Desrosiers · « **Reply #21 on:** October 29, 2010, 06:36:25 AM »

Photos would be nice.

Alan Resinger · « **Reply #22 on:** October 29, 2010, 08:43:20 AM »

I built a detached shop a few years back when I lived over on Vancouver Island. I designed it with outside dimensions of 16' X 24' and figured it would be about right to build models in and an occasional canoe or kayak when I got the urge. I took the plans to the city to get a building permit and the city inspector was standing there looking at the plans and started shaking his head. Panic started to set in and I finally had to ask what the problem was. He looked at me straight faced and said that the shop was way too small, then laughed. The size was attequate but could have been larger. Once I stuck all the power tool in it tended to get crowded at times.
Alan Resinger

Leester · « **Reply #23 on:** October 29, 2010, 09:28:22 AM »

Did someone say photos ??

Leester · « **Reply #24 on:** October 29, 2010, 09:30:18 AM »

A couple more

Robertc · « **Reply #25 on:** October 29, 2010, 09:42:03 AM »

My "shop" is 16 x 28, however, I have this low red thing sitting in the middle that doesn't go outside too often.
I build in my living room. It's great being single.

Bill Sawyer · « **Reply #26 on:** October 29, 2010, 10:55:09 AM »

I believe that no matter what size shop you have you will fill it. The year before I retired I had a shop built. Just before construction began I changed the size and added a good bit to the overall size. A soon as I moved my woodworking equipment in, I knew that it should have been made at least double that size. If you get a bigger shop it won't be long before it is as crowded as what you have now.

One thing I planned on. About a foot away from my shop, I built a second building. Inside is my air compressor. I ran the power and air lines through pvc pipe from building to building. When the compressor comes on I can barely hear it.

JamieHolford · « **Reply #27 on:** October 29, 2010, 12:27:05 PM »

Quote from: Leester on October 29, 2010, 09:30:18 AM

A couple more

Nice albatros

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #28 on:** October 29, 2010, 01:48:57 PM »

My shop came with the house -- it's way bigger than I would have built. It's probably about 2000 square feet, and would be ridiculously oversize except that my other hobby is cars.

What does it need? A shop foreman and a couple of worker-bees going at it full time -- for free, of course.

My actual modeling space is a bit small -- I'm crowded from behind by a 1963 Chevy Suburban, from the left by a bench-top lathe, and the space is being used exceedingly inefficiently as there's still unopened boxes from the move-in nearly 10 years ago!

Leester · « **Reply #29 on:** October 29, 2010, 03:00:21 PM »

Good eye Jamie

Brian Massey · « **Reply #30 on:** October 29, 2010, 04:01:08 PM »

First I built a 10x14 building to work in . . . way to small. Then I sold my coin collection and built a 30x40 building. With that done I built an 8x14 shed on the back of the big shop to house all the lawn tools and chemicals, so they are out of the shop. As for the 30x40 I wanted 30x50 but the $ just wasn't there. Besides the airplanes, there are two cars in the shop, so there goes some room, and of course the assortment of wood working tools. I did bootleg in a connection to the septic, and having a john in the place is handy. The ceiling is 10', so lots of room to hang the models up out of the way. I did get smart and put in 110 and 220 volt outlets in the floor where the work benches are; that is handy.

My wife and I are both packrats, so the space isn't any too big. I'll let you all know when we have a giant crap . . . er, yard sale.

Brian

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #31 on:** October 29, 2010, 04:39:06 PM »

This is one and another corner of the 40x50 ft shop.(several years ago)
The corner has recently overflowed on to the top of cars, Machinery and other such.
It is still flowing.......like a river.....a river of airplanes. it wont stop! can you drowned in airplanes?
My density is more than balsa..........

This shop was big enough and then I had to go and use it

Joe Messinger · « **Reply #32 on:** October 29, 2010, 10:38:07 PM »

16'x24'workshop. 256 sq.' work area. 128 sq.' storage area Partitioned off. Nowhere near enough room! Accommodates, fly tying, rod building, reloading, welding, carpentry, to name a few things that goes on in there. Of course building and repairing c/l planes. Hung the planes from the ceiling. Still not enough room. Maybe twice as big would work. Probably not . . .

Joe

wwwarbird · « **Reply #33 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:06:48 PM »

How much stuff can you pack into a 12' x 12' space and still have room to work? A 64" span (5.3') PBY Catalina came out of this shop...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #34 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:13:45 PM »

The previous pics were right after a fresh cleaning, these are from tonite.

I wish I had a picture from a few weeks ago when the glass top bench was deeply buried in balsa scraps and dust in mid-build frenzy on the current project. It's rarely this clean. I cleaned up again before starting the covering and silkspanning process going on here...

JamieHolford · « **Reply #35 on:** October 30, 2010, 12:29:39 AM »

Quote from: Leester on October 29, 2010, 03:00:21 PM

Good eye Jamie

WW1 is my kind of stuff!!!

Dave I love your Garage!!!!! I think I already see which plane I wanna crash first

Chuck Feldman · « **Reply #36 on:** October 30, 2010, 05:08:49 AM »

No shop of any size would be big enough for me. It would just take longer to clutter it up. If I had a bigger shop I would have much more room for started and as yet not finished models. The organized guys can get by with half of a two car garage. Gene Martine has a nice set up in just that.
Me, I have two out buildings one is 10x12 the other is 10x14. I have an office in a spare bedroom. The closet in full of my stuff. The drawing table serves as another place to build. Just to much Stuff! George was right. We all have to much Stuff!

Leester · « **Reply #37 on:** October 30, 2010, 06:41:04 AM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on October 29, 2010, 11:13:45 PM

The previous pics were right after a fresh cleaning, these are from tonite.

I wish I had a picture from a few weeks ago when the glass top bench was deeply buried in balsa scraps and dust in mid-build frenzy on the current project. It's rarely this clean. I cleaned up again before starting the covering and silkspanning process going on here...

A fresh Cleaning

What is that

john e. holliday · « **Reply #38 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:34:32 AM »

I think that is when you move stuff around so that the dust pan and broom can be found.

I have cleaned the floor several times now since getting the roll top desk. Surprise, to me anyway, is that I can still see the desk and have some space. Cheated last night and glued a block of balsa to the King Sweep fuse.

proparc · « **Reply #39 on:** October 30, 2010, 02:35:48 PM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on October 29, 2010, 11:13:45 PM

The previous pics were right after a fresh cleaning, these are from tonite.

I wish I had a picture from a few weeks ago when the glass top bench was deeply buried in balsa scraps and dust in mid-build frenzy on the current project. It's rarely this clean. I cleaned up again before starting the covering and silkspanning process going on here...

This is where the magic happens baby!! Looks like to type of shop where I would want to visit and hang out.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #40 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:54:42 AM »

Quote from: Leester on October 29, 2010, 09:30:18 AM

A couple more

I noticed the Albatross too, what's the scoop on that one?

JamieHolford · « **Reply #41 on:** October 31, 2010, 04:19:48 AM »

Its either the D.II or D.III version......just my luck its Oeffag:)

Leester · « **Reply #42 on:** October 31, 2010, 05:57:00 AM »

It's a DII Super Secret Electric project. Short kit from Manzano Laser Works. Whats Oeffag ??

wwwarbird · « **Reply #43 on:** October 31, 2010, 12:57:57 PM »

That's really cool, I like it. What was the price tag on it? Please keep us posted on this one.

JamieHolford · « **Reply #44 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:16:44 PM »

Oeffag is the Austrian version I wanna say. But I may be wrong.

THere is a guy that offers LOTS of short kits of WW1 for electric r/c . You can modify it for 1/2a as its built quite light. If and when I remember the site I'll post it up

Leester · « **Reply #45 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:35:19 PM »

Here's the 2 I have dealt with. The short kit and plans (3 or 4 sheets) were 85.95 + shipping

www.aerodromerc.com
www.manzanolaser.com

Chris McMillin · « **Reply #46 on:** October 31, 2010, 02:17:54 PM »

Quote from: Robertc on October 29, 2010, 09:42:03 AM

My "shop" is 16 x 28, however, I have this low red thing sitting in the middle that doesn't go outside too often.
I build in my living room. It's great being single.

I guess I'm the only one that noticed the Lamborghini Espada? Nice car, Robert.

Chris...

JamieHolford · « **Reply #47 on:** October 31, 2010, 08:38:45 PM »

Quote from: Leester on October 31, 2010, 01:35:19 PM

Here's the 2 I have dealt with. The short kit and plans (3 or 4 sheets) were 85.95 + shipping

www.aerodromerc.com
www.manzanolaser.com

Yea AerdromeRC was hte one I was trying to think of. Great kits from what I can see.

Pinecone · « **Reply #48 on:** November 01, 2010, 11:18:12 AM »

There is NO such thing as enough room.

Mine is 30 x 36. But shares space with other hobbies (two cars, lift, etc).

My only regret was not making it bigger. IN my county, out buildings are limited to 50% the flor area of the main building. So I used the square footage of my actual fully finished portion of the house. But it turns out, (my house is a raised ranch) that my work in the basement/garage area (painting walls and floors, adding lights and wiring it, walling off the furnace/water heater area) was sufficient to be "finished." So I could have made it 30 x 50. I REALLY wish I had known.

W.D. Roland · « **Reply #49 on:** November 03, 2010, 02:33:15 PM »

Quote from: JamieHolford on October 30, 2010, 12:29:39 AM

Dave I love your Garage!!!!! I think I already see which plane I wanna crash first

Well then you better get busy crashing-- I mean crackin! Winter is rapidly approaching and Lost Field will soon become a bog!

Oh--if you love my garage it needs a good cleaning!!!

Did you find Gill?