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shop heater
« on: January 30, 2018, 08:50:58 AM »

   Guy's what are you using to heat your shop?  I don't want to use something with a flame as  we know that might result in a FIRE!!!  Don't need that excitement..  My shop is 12' x 24' and is reasonably insulated, so I am looking for suggestions/advice..  Thanks,
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2018, 08:58:14 AM »
Hi Gil
My friend in Ohio uses two of these:
https://www.amazon.com/PELONIS-HO-0201-Portable-Radiator-Settings/dp/B01LEHPMA0/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1517327733&sr=8-10&keywords=oil+filled+radiator+heater
He leaves them on low overnight, as he works on motorbikes during the days.
He says that they work well.
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2018, 09:04:30 AM »
16x24 Barn with second floor for remote attic storage
Central Texas so cooling is small walMart window unit $119 and does OK

I use two of the walMart roll around oil type enclosed heaters in the winter... like today
They are exceedingly cheap, have a thermostat.... no open hot element to ignite dust or dope fumes

In my case when the barn was built on site we did electrics every where and then good insulation and dry wall with four single pane trailer type windows

on really cold days at my computer like right now I have an additional fan driven Ceramic heater under the desk to keep my knees and toes toasty...this small heater does not get used when I am creating dust or fumes cuz I don't trust it
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2018, 11:43:55 AM »
There are window heat pumps that are reasonable in price and can be installed diy easily.  Make sure it has a reverse cycle and not just heater coils. 

The limited experience I have is to check and double check.  There are typically 3 ratings, cool, heat, and backup heat.  A/C with heater coils list only cool and heat.  I was looking at this and a split-system for the loft of my house, and ended up pushing a duct through an interior wall from the basement.  When i get a large shed or garage built i will be investigating this again.

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Re: shop heater
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2018, 12:05:52 PM »
   Guy's what are you using to heat your shop?  I don't want to use something with a flame as  we know that might result in a FIRE!!!  Don't need that excitement..  My shop is 12' x 24' and is reasonably insulated, so I am looking for suggestions/advice..  Thanks,

My shop is a bit bigger than yours....400 sq ft....
I had 2 new oil heaters for several years and they were lacking even with a fan to spread the hot air around.
Then I got 2 vertical oscillating heaters (no oil) that sweep back and forth about 45 degrees each way from center.
These units have a fan inside them.
They will run me out of there....I set them on 70 and leave them there and it is quite comfortable even though it was 5 degrees here a week or so ago.
About $35 each at Walmart.
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2018, 01:14:21 PM »
The "Cadet" shop heater is a good one.  Must have 240 Volts.
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 01:18:05 PM »
Gill  there are quite a few good low cost solutions but you are keen to beware of fire hazards...

I do a lot of cabinet grade wood working and do not heat nor cool my wood working shop cuz I create a LOT of dust---that no amount of vacuums or hoods can collect... This can make for an explosive environment   especially when spraying solvent based finishes

Know the research I did when building the WW shop and knowing I would be sanding and doping in it some ---I decided to NOT have any red hot exposed element heaters...period

My understanding is most ceramic types are enclosed...but I don't trust them

The two cheap roll around OIL Radiator style do OK--- but as noted by Dave ----they are not idea at distributing the heat....cuz my space is well insulated they do keep the general temp near 50F over night just to help me temp control for all the glues and paints etc....  if I needed 70f+ for daily creature comfort during sub 30s WX I would just buy 2 more...usually they are on sale for $29

I had two floor type ....similar to a base board heater that were enclosed with thermostats...but they did not last long for 24 hour over night use months at a time... and they were expensive for what they were  (IIRC they were $129 each) .... when they worked they (statically placed under the windows)  were better then the radiator style oil cheaper heaters....but for some reason each died in time , something on the controller board burned up.... this is the only shop on my property, of several, with no control for power surges except one UPS for this computer....so perhaps  a surge protector power strip should have been used to keep the floor heaters healthy

Not to say Dave above is wrong, I have not seen every type of oscillating heater fan unit...the ones I did look at all had an exposed Nichrome/Iconel heater wire that glows red hot when on.... NOT for my shop

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Re: shop heater
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 01:28:19 PM »
The picture below is the box that my garage heater came in. I got it from Northern Tool & Equip. You need 220 volt run to your garage. This unit pushes out a bunch of warm air. It will heat my uninsulated 16X20 garage in the winter with no problem in about an hour or so. I got this unit on sale for $100. https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200395481_200395481

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Re: shop heater
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 02:38:54 PM »
John not trying to keep harping on this but I happened to loose a good friend and his very cool dog to a house fire that was determined to to have been ignited by an exposed red hot element wire space heater  of similar type you posted

in an enclosed environment with a lot of settling dust enough can eventual accumulate on the cool element during non use months

When energized this can flame up and if the environment is just the right mix of new saw dust or saw dust and other explosive residue like dope fumes or paint spray fumes a sudden flash over can happen...I have witnessed this event

Not a problem at all with those heaters in a shop with no dust or painting....in fact I own that exact heater -----I used for years in my auto shop...very good heater for my use cuz I never had dust or flammable solvents used inside that shop

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Re: shop heater
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 03:13:04 PM »
My shop is wired for 240v. So I have an Berko industrial wall unit.  Nice things is, I can turn it up when I'm in the shop (it heats my 20 by 24 foot shop in about 20 minutes), and when I leave I can turn it down to 55F or so and my tools don't rust.
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 07:00:44 PM »
My shop is a bit bigger than yours....400 sq ft....
I had 2 new oil heaters for several years and they were lacking even with a fan to spread the hot air around.
Then I got 2 vertical oscillating heaters (no oil) that sweep back and forth about 45 degrees each way from center.
These units have a fan inside them.
They will run me out of there....I set them on 70 and leave them there and it is quite comfortable even though it was 5 degrees here a week or so ago.
About $35 each at Walmart.
Highly recommended.

   Hi Dave;
    Got a make and model number for this heater? Searching Wal-Mart can be dizzying sometimes.
   Thanks a lot,
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 07:59:45 PM »
I bought mine at Ace Hardware, Dan. I walked in, old fashioned like!
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 08:49:02 PM »
   Hi Dave;
    Got a make and model number for this heater? Searching Wal-Mart can be dizzying sometimes.
   Thanks a lot,
    Dan McEntee

Hi Dan....yep...Lasko (mfgr) Walmart #: CT22410 (exact model of what I have)
They have a bunch of them in this style.

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Re: shop heater
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 09:44:41 PM »
    Thanks a lot Dave, I'll check it out.

    Hey Chris! I'm still a brick and mortar store guy! I just wanted to check it out on line first. Then I'll motor up the Wally World and check it out in person. We have had a long serious cold snap here and a lot of the stores are sold out of space heaters. I'm interested in this for my garage..
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 10:32:13 PM »
John not trying to keep harping on this but I happened to loose a good friend and his very cool dog to a house fire that was determined to to have been ignited by an exposed red hot element wire space heater  of similar type you posted


    You want to put the heater or fan on the "clean" side blowing in, rather than the "dirty" side blowing/sucking out, so you never suck solvents or vapors into the fan or heating element.

     Brett

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Re: shop heater
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2018, 06:05:00 AM »
The LG model LW1215HR from Home Depot works well. But a jet dryer would fit the bill also.
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2018, 06:29:19 AM »

  Thanks a lot guy's as for you Mr Rose, you still ain't quite right!!!!   LOL LOL
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2018, 12:02:20 PM »
Hi Dan....yep...Lasko (mfgr) Walmart #: CT22410 (exact model of what I have)
They have a bunch of them in this style.


Using one of these in my shop as well. Worth every buck.
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Re: shop heater
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2018, 12:11:37 PM »
    Thanks a lot Dave, I'll check it out.

    Hey Chris! I'm still a brick and mortar store guy! I just wanted to check it out on line first. Then I'll motor up the Wally World and check it out in person. We have had a long serious cold snap here and a lot of the stores are sold out of space heaters. I'm interested in this for my garage..
    Type at you later,
      Dan McEntee

Dan....Wally store near you might be out of stock....if you order online it will be there in a day or so.


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