Ok here is the story on the Oriental Plus:
Flight 1: She flew! Although I was flying too slow to really do anything with it, although I was able to get shallow wingovers and a couple of loops with it. Through that, I determined that it needed a slight flap tweak and a smaller handle, plus a faster airspeed (the motor was running rich). I can kind of determine if the plane is overweight if it doesn't glide well during landing, and the plane did glide well, so that was a good sign. The landing gear is probably a bit too far back because you really need to get it glide in slow and descending at a small angle, otherwise, if I don't accomplish either of them, I bounce the landing, and it SPRINGS back up in the air.
Flight 2: Grandpa and I found that the flaps were off to begin with, so we just tweaked them level. This flight, i turned the needle in to get the revs up to about 10300RPM. We also made a slight handle adjustment, but stuck with the same one. Grandpa got my lap times and the plane was flying at 6 second lap times! At that speed and in Stunt Heaven air I was able to get some inverted flgiht inside loops, outside loops, inside squares and outside squares. Up until I got above 45 the plane felt solid at that speed suprisingly. I did land the plane much better this flight since I concentrated a lot more landing the plane.
Flight 3: Grandpa and I quickly drove to his house to get a couple of things that we needed, a smaller handle, 100ft long measuring tape, a jacket for grandma, and jacks to watch the footage we took. I put the smaller handle on, reset neutral, and went at it again. I brought the needle in a little more and got it running at 10600RPM. I was now flying at 5.8 and with the smaller handle I started flying the pattern!!!!!!!!! That plane was flying GREAT up until I got up high. I did the vertical 8 and I was losing tension but thought I could still do the hourglass, Just after I touched for the second corner on the hourglass, I completely lost line tension and had to bail out. I flew the rest of the flight level.
Through all that, I determined that I just needed more pitch on the prop, plain and simple. The motor was happy where it was so I don't want to fool around with that, just more pitch.
The plane is a terrific airplane to fly!!!!!!!!!! Grandpa weighed it and it weighs 58 ounces, more than what I would have liked but it is not overweight, especially when I could almost fly the pattern at 5.8.
The plane also has a terrific corner, and rotates right around what seems like the cg, plus it LOCKED after the corner.
The Oriental Plus is a point and shoot airplane, just need to get a little more speed and it'll be good to go. If you are looking for a first piped plane, this could be it, a little bigger than 35 ships, but smaller than SV-11s and such.