Author Topic: Shark 402 progress... (Read 3832 times)

wwwarbird · « **on:** March 15, 2010, 10:54:56 PM »

Here's some progress from the past week doing finishing work on the Shark 402...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2010, 10:56:36 PM »

Finishing the rudder off...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2010, 10:58:21 PM »

A little Miami Blue on the nose...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2010, 11:00:52 PM »

A little grey with some black mixed in for the canopy...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2010, 11:02:43 PM »

A little more Miami Blue on the wings...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2010, 11:05:46 PM »

Starting in on some graphics. I'm "cheating" and using some of the military block lettering from Major Decal and star insignia decals from Sig. I put these type of decals on with soapy water and then squeegee them out...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2010, 11:09:34 PM »

Gettin' there...

wwwarbird · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2010, 11:12:07 PM »

A few more small details and we'll be ready for clear...

Mark Scarborough · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2010, 10:59:56 AM »

Being a fan of Pats designs,, I gotta say, this interpretation is pretty awesome,,
your not a navy fan by any chance are ya? hmm PBY, now this?
BTW, sent a link to Pat, so he can enjoy your rendition of his design too,,

Pat Johnston · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2010, 11:41:31 AM »

Very slick, Wayne! Nice to see your iteration with the Ringmaster tail. I guess that makes it a Sharkmaster 402, now. You will find this one to be a top performer with a 25 on it. Thanks for showing us your workmanship and imagination.
Pat Johnston
Grateful in Boise
Skunk Works

wwwarbird · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2010, 12:17:47 PM »

Thanks guys, this one will have an OS .35-S on it.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2010, 04:32:36 PM »

Hope it flies as well as it looks. I truly like it.

Brian Browning · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2010, 12:48:45 PM »

Quote from: Mark Scarborough on March 16, 2010, 10:59:56 AM

Being a fan of Pats designs,, I gotta say, this interpretation is pretty awesome,,
your not a navy fan by any chance are ya? hmm PBY, now this?
BTW, sent a link to Pat, so he can enjoy your rendition of his design too,,

Mark, you ought to see his Clown/Wildcat-Buffalo!
Beautiful workmanship, I'm very jealous.

Brian

wwwarbird · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2010, 12:59:12 PM »

Brian,

Wow, that was a long time ago. Did I ever post pics of that one?

Brian Browning · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2010, 03:24:16 PM »

Yep, and you inspired me to build one like it.

Doesn't look as good as yours, though.

Keep up the warbirds and faux warbirds (maybe a P-39?

).

wwwarbird · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2010, 07:03:22 PM »

Where is that Clown post Brian?

A P-39 huh? That's one I've considered many times. I actually have a N.I.B. Larry Richards repro 48" Midwest P-63 on the shelf that is a beautiful kit. I've also got an original N.I.B. 33" Midwest P-39 kit. Last year from a friend I picked up an old scratchbuilt Walt Pyron P-39 that I just had to bolt a Fox .35 onto it, patch a couple little spots and go fly. It was built back in the mid 70's so I only flew it a few times and will probably just keep it hanging on the wall now. It's just too cool of an old model though to beat up after surviving this long. I thought about stripping and refinishing it but it's a pretty nice build for the era and I'm just going to leave it alone for old times sake.
I've got a ton of new ideas for Warbird type models, they come way faster than I can build them. A P-39 or P-63 is on the list at some point. All I can say at this point is stay tuned!

Brian Browning · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2010, 08:45:10 PM »

You posted it on Oct 7, 2006. I would link it if I knew how, but I'm slightly computer illiterate

. It comes up as the 3rd entry under Flying Clown search. I'm hoping that maybe somebody like Brodak will issue a copy of the Midwest 33" Airacobra and BF109. I like .15 size planes. I've had some success with a TT.09 powered Brodak Jr. Lightning Streak. TT.09s are cheap, economical and very powerful. BTW did I mention cheap?

Michael Boucher · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2010, 12:44:24 PM »

Beautiful plane and workmanship. I really like the mods you did to it.

Dennis Leonhardi · « **Reply #18 on:** March 24, 2010, 08:05:10 PM »

Nice job Wayne, the 402 is a great sport flier. The layout reminds me very much of the old Guillow Galaxy design which I very much enjoyed back in the '50s and '60s.

Dennis

wwwarbird · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2022, 08:35:20 PM »

Quote from: Brian Browning on March 17, 2010, 08:45:10 PM

You posted it on Oct 7, 2006. I would link it if I knew how, but I'm slightly computer illiterate . It comes up as the 3rd entry under Flying Clown search. I'm hoping that maybe somebody like Brodak will issue a copy of the Midwest 33" Airacobra and BF109. I like .15 size planes. I've had some success with a TT.09 powered Brodak Jr. Lightning Streak. TT.09s are cheap, economical and very powerful. BTW did I mention cheap?

Ok thanks, here it is...

https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/brodak-flying-clown/msg14748/#msg14748

wwwarbird · « **Reply #20 on:** December 06, 2022, 09:40:37 PM »

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on December 05, 2022, 11:14:57 PM

Your paint job represents the leader of Blue section or the third section and needs a sold blue line around the aft portion of the fuselage. Just saying.

Interesting, but it does have a blue line around the aft fuse. I just fudged everything to generally represent a typical pre-war Navy scheme.

(BTW, this is a really old post I revived by accident last night)

Allen Eshleman · « **Reply #21 on:** December 07, 2022, 05:21:20 AM »

How did or does it fly? Did you find the motor to work well with it?

wwwarbird · « **Reply #22 on:** December 07, 2022, 09:30:59 PM »

Quote from: Allen Eshleman on December 07, 2022, 05:21:20 AM

How did or does it fly? Did you find the motor to work well with it?

Which plane?

Dennis Leonhardi · « **Reply #23 on:** December 08, 2022, 01:48:47 AM »

Quote from: wwwarbird on December 05, 2022, 08:35:20 PM

Ok thanks, here it is...

https://stunthanger.com/smf/open-forum/brodak-flying-clown/msg14748/#msg14748

Wayne, I spent several years in a research lab working near a chemist who frequently reminded us, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear".

That may be, but I think you could make that ear look pretty darned good!

Allen Eshleman · « **Reply #24 on:** December 08, 2022, 12:57:29 PM »

I think I am a bit confused. So either plane, if both have been flown, how did they fly?

wwwarbird · « **Reply #25 on:** December 08, 2022, 10:04:26 PM »

Quote from: Allen Eshleman on December 08, 2022, 12:57:29 PM

I think I am a bit confused. So either plane, if both have been flown, how did they fly?

The 402 is a great all around sport/stunt flyer. A great mid-size stunt trainer too. Early on I got rid of the 35-S because it always wanted to run away. I tried three different S motors, many different props and tanks, and nothing helped at all. I finally replaced it with an FP.35 and then it was happy. If I ever built another I think I'd try an LA or FP .25, it would save a bit of weight and probably be an ideal combo.

The Flying Clown was really a lot of fun, the LA.15 was a perfect match for it. The plane would happily go anywhere you pointed it. I used .012 x 48' lines. I was bummed when it got damaged in my shop and would love to build another one someday.

Allen Eshleman · « **Reply #26 on:** December 09, 2022, 07:16:20 AM »

Thanks for replying. I have two Shark 402's, one with an LA-25 and another with an FP-25. Both are too fast. I am going to try some different propellers. APC 9.625x3.25, 10-3 and 10-4. and see what happens We are in the cold season right now. I wondered about how the 35-S worked. I don't have run-away with either of these two engines. I know I can try longer lines also.

Colin McRae · « **Reply #27 on:** December 09, 2022, 08:33:04 AM »

I use an OS 25LA on my Shark w/ 9-4 APC prop, and fly it on 60' lines. The 9-4 prop works well.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2022, 05:35:35 PM »

Quote from: Colin McRae on December 09, 2022, 08:33:04 AM

I use an OS 25LA on my Shark w/ 9-4 APC prop, and fly it on 60' lines. The 9-4 prop works well.

Sounds like a good combo.

richardm · « **Reply #29 on:** December 12, 2022, 08:34:26 PM »

Had a Magnum .25 on my 402, replaced it with a .21, much better, had to run the .25 in a solid four stroke

Pat Johnston · « **Reply #30 on:** December 27, 2022, 04:57:54 PM »

A motor setup that has been a consistent solution is the FP/LA 25 swinging a 10-4 GF Master Airscrew. This prop is a little wider than other 10” props. The overall effect is to control the speed with more prop blade and a happy pitch. More traction (as Mark Scarborough says) is achieved for a more consistent speed in the maneuvers.
BTW, if your 35S wants to run away, consider adding more castor to your fuel and/or reducing the venturi size down some. Richard Oliver suggested more layers of pantyhose filters as a poor man’s restrictor. Clever these guys.
Let us know how this works. Possibly start a thread for the run away subject itself.
Pat Johnston
Idaho Skunk Works

wwwarbird · « **Reply #31 on:** December 27, 2022, 07:08:22 PM »

Quote from: Pat Johnston on December 27, 2022, 04:57:54 PM

BTW, if your 35S wants to run away, consider adding more castor to your fuel and/or reducing the venturi size down some. Richard Oliver suggested more layers of pantyhose filters as a poor man’s restrictor. Clever these guys.
Let us know how this works. Possibly start a thread for the run away subject itself.
Pat Johnston
Idaho Skunk Works

Thanks for the thoughts Pat but I solved my 35-S troubles a long time ago now, I sold them all. As an added bonus, it saves me the embarrassment of having to purchase pantyhose.