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Title: Russian stunter
Post by: dc stunt on June 12, 2019, 05:29:37 AM: Any one has any idea as to where I might get a set of plan for this plane?
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Mike Alimov on June 12, 2019, 05:38:18 AM: This is a plane by Valentin Salenek, a longtime member of (first) Soviet and (later) Russian national team. This plane was published in Modelist-Konstruktor circa 1986(?) and the article was titled "The Novelty of the '95 Nationals" or something like that. I have a copy of the article which includes the plans, but I'm at Brodaks this week. I can scan the plans - however, keep in mind they only exist in a single page format (9.5" x 11") with dimensions; no full size plans are available. You would have to reproduce the plans from the magazine publication.
This article also had a very detailed description of one of the popular take apart systems. The entire plane comes apart and packs in a box the size of an average suitcase. Very cool.
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: dc stunt on June 12, 2019, 05:55:47 AM: Thanks Mike, much appreciated. Have fun at Brodak.
Best

David
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Alexey Gorbunov on June 12, 2019, 08:35:09 AM: Plans:
https://clstunt.ru/images/Plans/F2B_001/F2B_001_2.jpg
https://clstunt.ru/images/Plans/F2B_001/F2B_001_3.jpg
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: chris perkins on June 12, 2019, 11:48:33 AM: Thank you Alexey.
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: POLF2B on June 12, 2019, 04:11:59 PM: Model
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: proparc on June 12, 2019, 04:12:37 PM: Looks like a Genesis with completely different aerodynamics and force arrangements. D>K
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Chris McMillin on June 12, 2019, 07:55:22 PM: Yeah! I'm with Milt.
It has about nothing that looks like a Genesis!
Chris...

Quote from: proparc on June 12, 2019, 04:12:37 PM
Looks like a Genesis with completely different aerodynamics and force arrangements. D>K
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: M Spencer on June 12, 2019, 10:58:08 PM: You Mean " генезис " Comrade . S?P

Wotsa 8 on it side , or is that ' Dia. ' symbol , = OPMAT mean, anyway ( the name on the wing )

What turns the prop , the Engine even . type / displacement .
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Mike Alimov on June 13, 2019, 03:41:23 AM: On the wing it says “Format”. The design is completely original (720 sq inch wing if I recall correctly), and has nothing to do with the Genesis. Engine is 9.5 cc loop scavenged, rear exhaust, rear intake, homemade.
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Vitalis Pilkionis on June 13, 2019, 07:43:55 AM: Best Regards,
Vitalis P.
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Steve Berry on June 13, 2019, 10:59:32 AM: My curious mind is wondering....how well did it fly? Did it place in the World's? How's it compare to say, the actual Genesis, or Impact, or any known American design?

Steve
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Paul Wescott on June 14, 2019, 01:31:38 PM: Quote from: Mike Alimov on June 13, 2019, 03:41:23 AM
On the wing it says “Format”. The design is completely original (720 sq inch wing if I recall correctly), and has nothing to do with the Genesis. Engine is 9.5 cc loop scavenged, rear exhaust, rear intake, homemade.

Home made Engine?!?! BRAVO!!! Is there any information available on THAT amazing triumph?

Paul W.
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: Lauri Malila on June 14, 2019, 02:47:15 PM: Like some other great minds, also Valentin likes to use Dykes rings in his engines.
Title: Re: Russian stunter
Post by: proparc on June 14, 2019, 05:55:51 PM: Quote from: Steve Berry on June 13, 2019, 10:59:32 AM
My curious mind is wondering....how well did it fly? Did it place in the World's? How's it compare to say, the actual Genesis, or Impact, or any known American design?

Steve

That is what I was wondering? Until recent times, the Russians were pretty tight lipped about their F2B technology. Of course, all that has changed now. I wonder how it flew?