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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Randy Ryan on February 20, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
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I need Ringmaster (S-1) patterns and plans but I can't remember who has them. Anybody?
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Barry Baxter plan service will provide you with a nice set. Ken
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Over at the brotherhood they are there for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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BOTR has several who have S-1 plans, plus Pat Johnston has a OTS legal "Lite" version that out flies the box stock ones. No dimensions or airfoil changes, just some tweaks to the construction. Once built there is no discernible difference from a Sterling kit S-1. Plus, Pat can laser cut you the ribs at a very very competitive price. Or a complete kit..... The biggest "change" is the "molded" LE which is a direct copy of the "unobtainium" solid LE material, yet they will float off the bench if you don't weight them down. If you build one of his "Gold Kits" over 21 oz, you done something wrong! LOL!!
Eric Rule has an awesome kit, also, and I "think" Pat King cuts ribs and maybe a full kit for the S-1
Not sure how the ones other than Pat J's are as far as the construction of the LE. Pat J's is molded using laser cut formers and foam then the sheeting wrapped around it. SUPER light and strong, and the same "final size" as that piece of 15lb mahogany that Sterling used to try and pass off as a balsa LE! LOL!!!!
Big Bear
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BOTR has several who have S-1 plans, plus Pat Johnston has a OTS legal "Lite" version that out flies the box stock ones. No dimensions or airfoil changes, just some tweaks to the construction. Once built there is no discernible difference from a Sterling kit S-1. Plus, Pat can laser cut you the ribs at a very very competitive price. Or a complete kit..... The biggest "change" is the "molded" LE which is a direct copy of the "unobtainium" solid LE material, yet they will float off the bench if you don't weight them down. If you build one of his "Gold Kits" over 21 oz, you done something wrong! LOL!!
Eric Rule has an awesome kit, also, and I "think" Pat King cuts ribs and maybe a full kit for the S-1
Not sure how the ones other than Pat J's are as far as the construction of the LE. Pat J's is molded using laser cut formers and foam then the sheeting wrapped around it. SUPER light and strong, and the same "final size" as that piece of 15lb mahogany that Sterling used to try and pass off as a balsa LE! LOL!!!!
Big Bear
I don't do S1 Ringmasters, there are enough vendors without me. I do sell Ringmaster Jr. laser cut kits, Baby Ringmaster, Beginners Ringmaster, Beginners Ringmaster Bipe, and Ringmaster Sportster kits. All are laser cut. There are free S1 plans on the Brotherhood of the Ring site. y1
Pat
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Randy,
Thanks to Gabriele Macre' and Pat King, you can get a free set of S-1 Ringmaster plans here:
http://my.ilstu.edu/~jccrall/ (http://my.ilstu.edu/~jccrall/)
Enjoy,
John
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Thanks for all the great feedback guys. When I said S-1 I was only refering to the .35 profile Ring. Bill, thanks for that information there, I will look into that when I get home from work. Had to drive in this morning, 7" of that white S**T
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Sorry, if you tried to download the S-1 Ringmaster plans from my web site. Something burped or I was hacked but I have restored the plans file and it should work now.
http://my.ilstu.edu/~jccrall/ (http://my.ilstu.edu/~jccrall/)
Or you can get a PDF version here:
http://www.wix.com/jccrall/ringmasters-rule (http://www.wix.com/jccrall/ringmasters-rule)
Enjoy,
John
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Sorry, if you tried to download the S-1 Ringmaster plans from my web site. Something burped or I was hacked but I have restored the plans file and it should work now.
John
http://my.ilstu.edu/~jccrall/ (http://my.ilstu.edu/~jccrall/)
What instructions do I give to the Kinko's folks to get the proper scale?
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What instructions do I give to the Kinko's folks to get the proper scale?
It has been a while since I have had them print plans for me but I seem to recall that they can get them right using the scale at the lower left on the plans. The wing span is 42 inches if that helps. Also I think (but could be wrong) that if you use the PDF file, you simply have them printed at 100%.
I hope that those in the know will chime in here if I have it wrong!!
By the way, I believe a set can be printed from the PDF file on a regular printer using the tile mode at 100% (it would be a lot of pages :))
John
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What instructions do I give to the Kinko's folks to get the proper scale?
If the .pdf plans are printed at 100% the plot will be full size. y1
Pat
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If the .pdf plans are printed at 100% the plot will be full size. y1
Pat
The first time I went to Staples with plans on a disc, I had to go through that with the older gentleman who was running the printer. He pulled it up on the computer screen and the read out was 27%. "What size do I print it?" I told him to "try 100%" ...... guess what......... it worked. The plans were perfect.
By far the easiest way I have ever printed plans! (sometimes even reprinting "printed plans" can get messed up! take a pocket ruler to check the "Scale" on the plans)
Big Bear
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...The biggest "change" is the "molded" LE which is a direct copy of the "unobtainium" solid LE material...
Big Bear
Planeium + sandium = unobtanium ... if you are persistant. ;D
George
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Planeium + sandium = unobtanium ... if you are persistant. ;D
George
Hi George! ;D
Yes, a good sanding block, some carving blades, and even a razor plane, will yield fantastic results (for those of us who are not as lazy as I am! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!). As more and more days go by, I panic more and more. Less days left to build more airplanes! LL~ LL~ AT least my wife has finally progressed in her recovery to the point that I can leave her long enough to go to the basement (phone has "intercom"! LOL!!) and get some work done! ;D
A friend actually gave me 6 pieces of the old LE material that were all "bowed". I have straightened them all out as needed. Not as hard as it seems, thank the Lord for CA and razor saws........ ;D
Big Bear