Author Topic: ringmaster (Read 3381 times)

Bill Smith · « **on:** April 23, 2007, 07:30:15 PM »

OK bright boys.
How many sterling models use the basic ringmaster wing?
I know there was the super. the navion the s-1 of course and plans to stretch the wing for the stunting version. and then of course the combat, uncle sam etc. There must be more. Do you guys know any others

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #1 on:** April 23, 2007, 08:21:04 PM »

Sterling Hellcat.

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #2 on:** April 23, 2007, 10:05:32 PM »

To All;

Sterling Models and Ringmaster history can be found here:

http://home.mindspring.com/~jeff.coons/vintagesterlingmodels/index.html

ENJOY your trip.

"Billy G"

Bob Disharoon · « **Reply #3 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:29:23 AM »

Thanx for the link..as usual B.G. comes to the rescue

.......H.D.

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #4 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:47:11 AM »

I didnt see anything on that webpage that answers the original question....

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2007, 07:24:00 AM »

Rich;

Ya think ya got me HUH. Read it again, it didn't say anything about answering the question. It said you could find Sterling and Ringmaster History here, thats all. GOTCHA!

"Billy G"

EDIT-----Also you will find a place on that site to ask questions----------Ask the question there LOL

john e. holliday · « **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2007, 08:33:33 AM »

The good ole Ringmaster is like the Fox 35 Stunt, you either loved them or you cussed them. I can still remember my first one built exactly according to Sterling instructions. 80 degrees up and down, but, it would fly and I have lost count of how meny people I taught to fly with them. Yes, everyone of them powered by FOX. DOC Holliday

Bill Smith · « **Reply #7 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:28:03 PM »

the first model I ever flew (more than a half lap) was a ringmaster with a McCoy 35. I was six and it drug me all over the circle while my dad and uncle laughed their buts off. I flew it till it ran out of gas, got it down and threw up.
IT WAS GREAT!!

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #8 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:49:56 PM »

Now that sounds all to familiar.

"Billy G"

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #9 on:** April 24, 2007, 09:34:52 PM »

Quote from: Bill Gruby on April 24, 2007, 07:24:00 AM

Rich;

Ya think ya got me HUH. Read it again, it didn't say anything about answering the question. It said you could find Sterling and Ringmaster History here, thats all. GOTCHA!

How many sterling models use the basic ringmaster wingLL
Now Billy,
Gotcha!
"I didnt see anything on that webpage that answers the original question.... "

Just bustin your chops a lil my brotha! LOL

Bill Smith · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2008, 06:59:13 PM »

After asking the original question I got the bug to build another one. It took me a while to get it done but here it is

Andrew Hathaway · « **Reply #11 on:** July 06, 2008, 06:09:34 PM »

I don't know where you guys are getting that the Sterling Hellcat used the same wing as the Ringmaster?
The Hellcat has a tapered leading edge.

Clint Ormosen · « **Reply #12 on:** July 06, 2008, 06:23:39 PM »

Quote from: Richard Grogan on April 23, 2007, 08:21:04 PM

Sterling Hellcat.

I don't think so.

George · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2008, 08:51:02 AM »

For some reason, I thought the Ringmaster, Mustang, and Yak-9 (S-1, S-2, S-3) were the only ones that shared that wing.

George

John Paris · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2008, 10:18:04 AM »

Bill,
How is that tank working out for you? I have had trouble when pulling harder turns with them. Anything special you do to them?
John

Andrew Hathaway · « **Reply #15 on:** July 07, 2008, 10:34:23 AM »

The Mustang and Yak both have smaller wings then the Ringmaster, along with tapered leading edges, and sheet flaps. To say they're the same wing isn't accurate since about the only part that is really the same between them is how they're laid out and constructed. The spans/chords are different, the ribs are different, etc. About the only part that is probably identical between them is the bellcrank mount.

Just One-eye · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2008, 12:17:05 PM »

Quote from: John Paris on July 07, 2008, 10:18:04 AM

How is that tank working out for you? I have had trouble when pulling harder turns with them. Anything special you do to them?

Allow me to add a comment, if I may. The "T-28" series was in response to George A's suggestion to Gil Henry, after the Flite Streak was kitted. None of the manufactured tanks that would fit had enough capacity for a high-revving 35, and George was using his own Chicken Hoppers he fabricated for his prototypes. He sent patterns and photos to Veco, but the result wasn't a Chicken Hopper at all -- it just "sorta" looked a little like one of those.

As long as the engine is revving up, the tanks work fine, but a slower flying model that has a "classic" breaking style engine attached will often begin to sputter and choke, almost die, all of the so-called "burp" symptomatic stuff, but in all manner of high altitude turns, not merely the high outside corners of hourglasses, squares and square eights. I've had that sort of response from Fox stunt 35s, Johnson "S" 33s, McCoy Lightning Bolt 40s, and OS Max-S 35s.

Engines that are operated in a "Wet Two" for stunting, like the K&Bs, weren't affected; Fox 35s set NOT to break into a four stroke were far less likely to dislike the T-28s (and the Fox 25s -- three bolt variety -- would perform a perfectly lovely 4-2-4 waltz in spite of using a T-28).

Dalton Hammett · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2008, 01:18:56 PM »

*** Someone mentioned the Navion as being the same, I built one ***years ago*** and I believe
it had a taper in the leading edge and trailing edge - very different from the Ringmaster.

Dalton H.

Richard Grogan · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2008, 03:07:53 PM »

Quote from: Andrew Hathaway on July 06, 2008, 06:09:34 PM

I don't know where you guys are getting that the Sterling Hellcat used the same wing as the Ringmaster?
The Hellcat has a tapered leading edge.

I meant the S1A is the same airfoil as the Hellcat. Other than the very slight tapered LE and LG blocks, it is esentially the same wing as the S1A Ringmaster(by Sterling Estes).

Bill Smith · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2008, 04:22:45 PM »

John
haven't gotten to find out with this one yet, too windy. The Brodak .25 sounds good on the ground though. Most of the time I have no problem . If I do, I open it up and put a plate in the tank so that the fuel doesn't slosh away from the pickup to quick (chicken hopper) . Some I have gotten, have a plate some don't, I don't know why, this is the first one I've gotten from brodak. the tank by not being too deep( thick, wide, what ever ) doesn't change too much during the run. sometimes I use them uniflow sometimes I don't, depends on what the engine likes.

John Paris · « **Reply #20 on:** July 07, 2008, 07:49:17 PM »

Bill and Just One Eye,
Thanks for the feedback on the tank. I know that they have been around for a while but I have not had a whole lot of luck with mine using a 4-2-4 style run. I have not opened it up to see if there is a baffle in place or not so might try that next along with flying more of a 2-stroke style run.
John