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Title: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Mike Griffin on February 19, 2018, 10:19:36 AM
Does anyone kit Riley's "Quicker"?  I would like to build one but prefer to do it from a kit although I will build one from plans if no kit is currently available.

Thank you for any help.

Mike
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: john e. holliday on February 19, 2018, 10:37:52 AM
If you yourself did a Quicker kit I would most likely take one.    H^^
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: eric rule on February 19, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I have done Quicker rib sets along with the other parts of this model for a number of folks. Give me a call.

Eric Rule
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Mike Griffin on February 19, 2018, 05:34:04 PM
If you yourself did a Quicker kit I would most likely take one.    H^^

Hi Doc,

I have no intentions of kitting this model.  I just wanted to build one for myself.  Since I posted this I have found plans and Eric can cut a set of ribs for me. 

Mike
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Mike Griffin on February 19, 2018, 05:34:48 PM
I have done Quicker rib sets along with the other parts of this model for a number of folks. Give me a call.

Eric Rule

Thanks Eric.  I will give you a call tomorrow.

Mike
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Tim Chenevert on February 19, 2018, 05:50:40 PM
Mike, I have a question if you do not mind. What kind of glue do you use for your builds? Tim
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Mike Griffin on February 19, 2018, 10:18:20 PM
Mike, I have a question if you do not mind. What kind of glue do you use for your builds? Tim

Tim I use just plain ole Elmer's White Glue for most everything.  I do not like CA at all because of what it does to my eyes, nose and hands but there are a few places where I will use it, mostly the thin.  If I laminate a 1/2" profile fuselage from two 1/4" pieces I will generally use epoxy to eliminate the possibility of warping from the water based Elmer's.  I glue my wings and tail components on with Elmer's as well.  I have used Titebond on occasion but do not like it as much as the white Elmer's.

I hope this helps.

Mike
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Tim Chenevert on February 20, 2018, 03:27:01 AM
It does and thanks. Tim
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Bob Hunt on February 20, 2018, 06:06:00 AM
Each time I see a thread about the legendary Quicker, I get a wave of nostalgia about the years in which I built and flew them. I had several of them over the years, but the most memorable one was the ship I flew in the 1961 Nats in the Junior Combat event. At that time my family was living in PA, just about five miles north of the Nats site at Willow Grove. Red Reinhardt (designer of the famed El Diablo, Galloping Comedian, International Stunt Champ, and Stunt Wing) worked for my father as a machinist and he also boarded with us. The following story is an excerpt from the book I am writing about all the great characters that I've met throughout my modeling life. This one is from the chapter about Red...

In 1961 I was entered in Junior Combat at the Nats in Willow Grove. Red was living with my family at the time and worked for Dad as a machinist. I showed him my brand new, Riley Wooten designed, Quicker, which was painted all red. He told me to get him a pencil as he grabbed the ship from me. I watched in total amazement as he freehand drew flames from the leading edge back onto the wing. Some of the flames would overlap and some would blend, but the end result was beautiful. I spent the next few evenings painstakingly hand painting the flames to Red’s outlines. He added some much needed three dimensional coloring, and the finished product was the best looking model, by far, that I had owned up to that point!
   At the Nats I was stopped constantly by spectators who wanted a picture of the flaming Quicker. Oh, yeah, I lost in the first round, but didn’t put a scratch on the plane. I flew it for several years after that, and it will always rank in my mind as one of my all time favorites.


Ah, memories... Bob Hunt
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: C.T. Schaefer on February 20, 2018, 06:29:01 AM
I'm glad you are taking the time to write Bob. I still have and occasionally fly the first of seven Lil Quickies that I built. You cut me a wafer thin foam core for it. Although it may not have been the best idea, it worked good and 47 years later is still n the air!!     Thanks, TS
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Tim Chenevert on February 20, 2018, 08:50:35 AM
I enjoyed reading your story! Thanks for sharing it. Tim
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Terrence Durrill on February 20, 2018, 12:07:25 PM
Tim I use just plain ole Elmer's White Glue for most everything.  I do not like CA at all because of what it does to my eyes, nose and hands but there are a few places where I will use it, mostly the thin.  If I laminate a 1/2" profile fuselage from two 1/4" pieces I will generally use epoxy to eliminate the possibility of warping from the water based Elmer's.  I glue my wings and tail components on with Elmer's as well.  I have used Titebond on occasion but do not like it as much as the white Elmer's.

I hope this helps.

Mike



                    Mike, I started using Elmer's white glue for C/L model construction in 1956 when I put together an All American Sr.  It worked great and I have have used Elmer's white glue for just about everything ever since.  Back in the 50's, almost no one admitted using anything except Ambroid, or similar tube glues and I thought I was sort of off the main beat, so to speak.  I was a teenager without much modeling financing available to me, so I used what worked and what I could afford at the time.  But I guess I was a pioneer, of sorts.  Elmer's white glue is still cheap.......and it still works great.    D>K       H^^
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Steve Lotz on February 21, 2018, 03:53:35 AM
Wouldn't it be a good idea to get rid of the asymetry in the wing?

Steve
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Randy Cuberly on February 21, 2018, 03:08:52 PM
Wouldn't it be a good idea to get rid of the asymetry in the wing?

Steve

Why?  Think you can improve on a "Legend"...After all, the purpose of building one of these things is for Nostalgia!
Besides they flew pretty dam good with it!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: George Albo on February 21, 2018, 04:00:43 PM
Each time I see a thread about the legendary Quicker, I get a wave of nostalgia about the years in which I built and flew them. I had several of them over the years, but the most memorable one was the ship I flew in the 1961 Nats in the Junior Combat event. At that time my family was living in PA, just about five miles north of the Nats site at Willow Grove. Red Reinhardt (designer of the famed El Diablo, Galloping Comedian, International Stunt Champ, and Stunt Wing) worked for my father as a machinist and he also boarded with us. The following story is an excerpt from the book I am writing about all the great characters that I've met throughout my modeling life. This one is from the chapter about Red...

In 1961 I was entered in Junior Combat at the Nats in Willow Grove. Red was living with my family at the time and worked for Dad as a machinist. I showed him my brand new, Riley Wooten designed, Quicker, which was painted all red. He told me to get him a pencil as he grabbed the ship from me. I watched in total amazement as he freehand drew flames from the leading edge back onto the wing. Some of the flames would overlap and some would blend, but the end result was beautiful. I spent the next few evenings painstakingly hand painting the flames to Red’s outlines. He added some much needed three dimensional coloring, and the finished product was the best looking model, by far, that I had owned up to that point!
   At the Nats I was stopped constantly by spectators who wanted a picture of the flaming Quicker. Oh, yeah, I lost in the first round, but didn’t put a scratch on the plane. I flew it for several years after that, and it will always rank in my mind as one of my all time favorites.


Ah, memories... Bob Hunt

Thanks for sharing your story. Would have loved to have been there!

Did a little search on the Net and found this. Thought you'd like  http://www.flyinglines.org/combatlegends.wooten.html

Plans can be found here: http://www.controllineplans.com/compage6.htm   

Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: john e. holliday on February 22, 2018, 12:10:02 PM
Is Barry back on his feet?  Heard he was having some health issues?
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker" Quick Kit
Post by: howard shenton on February 23, 2018, 01:04:57 PM
Lazer works: http://lazer-works.com/misc.html

Has a Quick Kit for the California Quicker which has all the cut out pieces. Ribs, Stab, Elev., Ruder and plywood pieces for $20.
I have one as it was one of my favorite combat models.
 
Title: Re: Riley Wooten's "Quicker"
Post by: Dennis Wann on May 29, 2018, 06:50:26 PM
you mean one of these?   #^