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Title: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Paul Taylor on December 11, 2024, 09:53:07 AM
Reading some back issues of Control Line World and the back cover has a photo of one of his planes. I know he built a few and just curious if any acquired any of his Stuka’s?
Or where are they now?
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Paul Taylor on December 11, 2024, 09:54:02 AM
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Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: kenneth cook on December 11, 2024, 02:21:03 PM
             They were also flown clockwise.
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Paul Taylor on December 11, 2024, 02:50:49 PM
Oh that’s right. Forgot about that.
Not many southpaw flyers that fly backwards.
🤣
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: John Paris on December 11, 2024, 06:28:00 PM
Paul,
Gerry Phelps, Rich Giaccobone and Roy DeCamera are the only ones I have seen that fly clockwise.  Now I do recall Lew Woolard using down for up and up for down and have heard of others that had learned that way.  Was fun to watch him fly the square maneuvers.  Gary Tultz from Ohio flew "normal" for regular stunt but did have a Fireball that flew clockwise.  He was able to fly this, but did it left handed.  Said that it felt natural that way and had no issue going back and forth.  Lots of neat things to see out there if you look.

Rich's airplanes were fun to watch at Brodak's.  Always wondered how they would be to judge through a pattern.

John
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Paul Taylor on December 11, 2024, 07:19:31 PM
I can’t remember who I judged one time at Brodak’s that flew bassackwards in OTS but it blew my mind and was fun to watch.

Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Mark Gerber on December 12, 2024, 06:11:17 AM
Dave Cook was another clockwise flyer.

My uncle, Olin Gerber, had a Monogram Aeronca that flew clockwise and a Veco Tomahawk that flew counterclockwise.  He flew them both at the same flying session.  I didn't think much about it at the time (I was about 12), but now I'm really impressed.

Mark Gerber
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 12, 2024, 08:38:38 AM
Alan Resinger flies clockwise, and it is definitely somewhat strange to judge his flights. The tendency is to think he exited the maneuver wrong, and it takes a second to remember that it is supposed to go that direction.

I have heard rumors that a few CCW fliers have tried flying a CW airplane and only made it a few ugly laps. Not sure if Alan's planes were involved in that, but pretty sure it was in SW BC.    D>K Steve
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Dan McEntee on December 12, 2024, 11:07:01 AM
   And George Aldrich flew clockwise, correct? I used to be able to name of several guys who all flew clockwise and one thing common to them was they were all from the Cleveland area, I think, or at least was from Ohio,  and when they were young they all participated in a parks department group that had an instructor who flew that way and so that it what he taught everyone he encountered on how to fly. I have never tried it but willing to have a go at it if the opportunity presents itself with a disposable model!!
   Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Dave_Trible on December 12, 2024, 12:07:59 PM
I think in the very earliest days of control line there were quite few who flew clockwise.  I remember seeing a photo of a group of Kansas City club fliers and planes circa 1946-47 and many of those airplanes had the leadouts coming out the 'wrong' side.   We had one well known local- Bill Schwagerman- who flew that way still when I was a youngster.  His son Bill Jr. flies with us today, but CCW.  The other backwards thing was the flying with the handle upside down..   Another very good local flier in the 70s flew that way but I hadn't noticed until the day he wanted to buy the brand new Stuka Stunt I had just built from me.   He talked me into it-I wanted funds for my next build.   He wanted to test fly it though.   We went to the field.   I took the ship off since I wanted to at least test fly it once, then he came out to take it from me.   To my fright he got underneath me and snatched the handle out of my hand upside down!  I panicked and expected a crash any second.  Rather,  as I fell away he proceeded to put it though most of a respectable pattern.   He told me that when he learned to fly he just picked the handle up that way not knowing better and so that is what he learned.

Dave
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: Frank Imbriaco on December 12, 2024, 12:51:12 PM
Rich is a friend and I sincerely hope he's doing well.
 Any conversation about clockwise flying must include Gene Schaffer, designer and flyer extraordinaire.
Title: Re: Rich Giacobone’s Stuka’s?
Post by: M Spencer on December 12, 2024, 06:39:08 PM
YOU want STUKA's .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_uq8KMnE8w