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Title: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: PerttiMe on March 01, 2011, 02:33:44 AM
I have this photo of an older stunter on my hard disc and I don't know what it is. Judging by the file name it is probably Italian and I seem to recall it could be from the '60s. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Dennis Holler on March 01, 2011, 09:37:16 AM
Dunno but it looks pretty cool.  Seems to have kind of a short tail maybe, and kindof looks like an Ibeam??
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Jerry Leuty on March 01, 2011, 04:46:41 PM
It appears to be a Bob Palmer design. I am thinking it is a Pow Wow. One of my buds bought a Pow Wow kit off E-bay several years ago.
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Brian Massey on March 01, 2011, 04:49:11 PM
It appears to be a Bob Palmer design. I am thinking it is a Pow Wow. One of my buds bought a Pow Wow kit off E-bay several years ago.
I thought the wing looked a little Thunderbird like; maybe it is a Bob Palmer design. Looks like an Indian on the verticle stab.

Brian
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: PerttiMe on March 02, 2011, 02:05:08 AM
Don't know about Pow Wow, unless the builder modified a few things for looks. More elliptical tips and the canopy at least.

I guess the short tail and wing construction probably put the design in the '50s?
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: PerttiMe on March 02, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
It does look very similar to the Sleekster. The different fin shape could be put down to builder preference. What I can make out of the wing construction looks a little different. Or does it ???

There seem to be more references to Earl Cayton than Clayton, including the AMA plans list.

I found that Ty Marcucci has built a sleekster. I'll borrow his photos.

Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Jim Kraft on March 02, 2011, 09:40:25 AM
Sure looks like Ty's Sleekster. What ever it is, I sure like it. It just wreaks 50's stunter. Some of those oldies are just to cool.
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: PerttiMe on March 02, 2011, 09:54:09 AM
Well, it ain't no stinkin Sleekster. LL~   It look more like  Bob Palmer design.  Plus it's spelled Marcu cc i,  not zz i.  LL~ LL~ It's Italian, not Sicilian.
I think I only have it wrong in the file names. Fixed the text but didn't feel like replacing the files. I am almost sure I can if you want me to  y1

edit:
As it is, it just proves beyond doubt that I am fallible.

I've gathered that in the old times ('50s was before my time) people liked to design their own more than now. Maybe picking up some influences from others but then going "My Way" with all those influences. If the result was good a plan might or might not be drawn afterwards.

Pertti Metsänheimo
(be sure to spell it right if you ever refer to me :)  #^  LL~)
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: BrianW517 on March 02, 2011, 11:26:47 PM
 ~>  n~ Could it be an early Veco kit?  <=  :o  HB~>  H^^
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Andrew Tinsley on March 03, 2011, 05:44:15 AM
Hmm,
  I certainly wouldn't like to spell your surname without reference to your post. Then I gave up trying to learn Finnish a long time ago. I decided to stick with the Scandinavian languages. Worked in Hungary for a while on and off and found that Hungarian had some affinity to Finnish, needless to say I never did learn much Hungarian!
  I am stumped as to what the old stunter is. It has got to be 50s. The nearest I can get is the Kismet, an Aussie stunter from the 50s, but that is said without too much conviction.

Regards,

Andrew.
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: PerttiMe on March 03, 2011, 06:33:12 AM
I am beginning to suspect it might not be some widely known design. At least, not a faithful reproduction of a widely known design in the English speaking parts of the world  :)  ;D  LL~

I like the look, whatever it is  y1
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: john e. holliday on March 03, 2011, 09:43:08 AM
Looking at the pic again, it looks like someone took the ideas of several models and came up with this.   H^^
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Wynn Robins on March 03, 2011, 03:38:38 PM
its not the reaction - reaction has turlte deck and different tail empennage
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Bill Morell on March 03, 2011, 05:04:33 PM
Don't know what it is but it certainly isn't a "I" beam.
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Serge_Krauss on March 04, 2011, 01:37:32 AM
I looked the other day through my Morris book and a UK catalog of classic period stunters (form GMH's collection) and found nothing very close. It appears to be a bit smaller that the US designs of the 50's and 60's, which hints at British origins. However, the flaps are much larger than what I generally saw in those designs. It may be a Palmer inspired spin-off or perhaps Australian , since he was also popular "down under." The wing also resembles a "Freebird" planwise.

SK
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on March 04, 2011, 01:15:29 PM
Panther?

Hmmm. Wrong canopy, but close...

W.
Title: Re: Recognize this older stunter?
Post by: PerttiMe on March 04, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
Panther?

Hmmm. Wrong canopy, but close...
Canopies are minor details but wing construction is totally different.

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