45 sized airplanes

[Russell Shaffer]

If a guy was to build something for an old Fox 45 schnerle or a Veco 45, what would you do?  I don't claim to be a good flier so it doesn't have to be world class stunt.  Just fun and keep me out of trouble.  I'm having a ball with my Flite Streak so I would like something comparable. If it qualified for OTS that would be a bonus.  I'm not doing that yet, but I'm sure thinking about it.  Thanks

[Clint Ormosen]

Veco 45? Where would you ever find one of those?

[Bill Little]

Hi Russell,

Lew McFarland was using a Veco 45 in his Shark at one time.  IIRC, RSM has a kit of the Shark.  It is a great flying plane!  The trike gear is fun, too.

A UHP Imitation should work with the Veco or Fox 45, also.

I have a Veco 45 and 50.  Basically the same engines except the 50 is ringed.  Both are great runners, they were just a touch heavy for the time versus some of the other engines.  The 45 found its way into several stunters of the early-mid '60s.  Bob Palmer's Skyscraper and Bob Gialdidni's Eclipse to name a couple more.  When the ST 46 came out, they kinda disappeared since the ST was a good bit lighter.  The Veco was a very good engine, much smoother running than the K&B 45.

Ted Snow's Humongous Is an OTS candidate that I *think* a Veco 45 would work well in! (just thought of that one.)  RSM kits that, too, IIRC.  If you care to "plans (scratch) build" a plane, Don Still's Victory (long tail version) from Flying Models would be another candidate.

Bill <><

[Willis Swindell]

I had a veco 45 in a Magnum and it worked great. To make a short story long 40 years ago when i first bought the 45  it would freeze every time it revved up. I ran about two gallons of fuel on the test stand and it would still freeze. lost two stunt ships because of this,  got mad one day and yanked the piston out and sanded it with some 400 sand paper still froze up. About ten years ago while walking out of a club meeting the veco 45 subject came up and I mentioned the problem with mine. Bob Ward a old friend that always used veco said that some one had tapered the liners backward. I didn’t even know that they tapered liners back then anyway went home measured it shore enough smaller at the bottom. I honed the bottom of the  liner and stuck the engine in the Magnum and it ran great. I had forgotten that I even had the engine I’m going to drag it out and put it in my Humongous.
Willis 

[Ken Deboy]

If your looking for something to get in the air fairly qick and easy you might consider the Top Flight Tutor II ARF. A Brodak Cardinal also flies well with a 45, I'd recomend the ARC over the ARF. I'd recommend the Tutor ARC over the ARF as well but they don't make one.

cheers,
Ken

[Bill Gruby]

This is to Clint Ormosen;

Watch the classifieds I might surprise you I haven't decided yet.   It will be soon.   

"Billy G"

[Clint Ormosen]

This is to Clint Ormosen;

Watch the classifieds I might surprise you I haven't decided yet.   It will be soon.   

"Billy G"

Sorry Bill, It was kind of an inside joke to Russell. I just sold him a Veco .45.

[Michael Floerchinger]

Hello Russell, I had Magnum sized airplane with a Fox 45 Schnerle and it pulled it pretty good thru the maneuvers. The only thing I added was an extra head gasket and experimented with smaller venturi insert until I got a good run, Randy Smith has a good post on fuels to use, it is a must read. I used the mixture that I ran for Fox 35s, a 50/50 synthetic/castor oil mix totaling about 28%. I got a good 2/4 break, sounded like a big 35!

Mike

[Russell Shaffer]

I ran mine , Fox 45, on a Banshee, stock engine and airplane.  As I recall, it didn't fly all that great (neither did I), probably a tad nose heavy.  But it never, ever got loose on the lines.  It pulled the Banshee with authority. 

[Warren Leadbeatter]

What about a Brodak Pathfinder by Gordon Delanny. Nice plane for a 45 or 46.

[Bill Sawyer]

Many years ago I watched someone fly a Veco Thunderbird with a Veco 45. He flew it on 70 foot lines and I was impressed with  the way it flew. Just a few years ago I bought a Veco 45 from someone that had crashed his Thunderbird and had no use for the engine. It will be going in my Thunderbird when I have time to build it. Must be something to that combination.