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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Harleyman on December 01, 2006, 04:57:37 PM
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This is after my second attempt at an Outside square loop two summers back. The ground jumped up about 5'6" and hit the top of my Flight Streak, inverted. Busted the needle and part of spraybar clean off at the nut. Rudder snapped off right at the fuse along with multiple holes all over the wing. The ground was kind of hard so it skipped off the grass.
The last shot is a week later, all repaired.
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GEE__I"D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS THREAD BUT I"VE NEVER CRASHED!!...Honest.
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Frank,
You have got to be kidding. That hole in the Paris Triangle still has not filled in and I think that fish are starting to swim around in it. On the plus side, I have noticed little propeller trees growing around the edges. Note to self, plant better quality props....Also there is that big divot in the tar out at Broome on the south side of the circle.....Need I go on???
John
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GEE__I"D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS THREAD BUT I"VE NEVER CRASHED!!...Honest.
Well after you try your second flight without a helper you may not be able to say that.
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There is a mole in my network......................................
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This was several years ago but its my favorite crash picture.
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Fortunately for me, no one seems to have a camera with them when I trash a plane. Paul (Rootbeard) has only seen me loose a SkyRay. Zuriel, on the other hand has been there or close by ( I met Zuriel right after my son forgot he was inverted and totaled my Tomahawk. While it may be hard to tell, my avatar is my son and the Tomahawk) the last 4 times one of my planes met it's end. Do kind of wish I had a shot or two of the crash that cost me the StuntMaster. Elevator hinges failed while I was doing an outside loop. Zuriel was standing next to me in the center of the circle at the time. I do have to say that the crash of Zuriel's Tempest 40 was about as memorable as it gets. It isn't often you see a plane appear to explode in midair without hitting something first.
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Well, I have no pictures of my "Crashes". I just haven't thought of taking a picture of the remains! LOL!!
Not being with the NSB I don't need photo documentation to try and decipher the "causal effects" of the crash! n~
Fortunately, they have been sparse in the past 10 years or so.
Bill <><
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My crashes have been awhile too. The last one was at Budder park broken arrow contest Viper 3 in a wing over pull out, the plane got repaired no problem. Thats was the summer of 94. Boy I hope that doesn't happen again soon!
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come on ppl dont be shy it happens to every one ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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some of you guy can go years without a crash is that true? man i can't go 10 days with out doing a digger,and it hurts when you crash and my stuff is junk isn't close to what i see on this forum but. i just hook the lines up to something else and move the crashed to the back of the line when there all broke it's time to go home. and think about all the fun you had its still a good day
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I did have a crash a couple years ago. The engine quit going vertical at the intersection of the sq. 8s. Coming out of the inverted bottom, turned up and just when I was ready to turn over the top, I noticed the engine had just quit! It just sorta free flighted up to about 50 feet, I can't run the 100 in 10 flat anymore............(in fact not in the last almost 40 years! LOL!!)
Plane is rebuilt, but I had to let it hang on the wall for a few months before I could touch it! y1
Bill <><
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Ok my saga,
last fall I went to Salem for the last contest of the year, I guss actually thats this fall. I have only been flying since June of this year. I had crashed my twisted sister weeks prior and a friend volunteered to let me fly his Excaliber for the weekend so I could compete. Great, I could fly classic, P-40 and begginner PA. well Friday night before the contest we met so I could put up some familiarization flights. (I was apprehensive about flying his plane, but by his statement, not a favorite so he wasnt worried. ) did one flinght no drama, next flight I asked how much fuel for the pattern. put in reccomended amount plus a smidge more. coming out of the second loop of the overhead 8 she quit cold no warning, well I cant run that fast either, scratch one Excaliber, shattered the wing. Out comes my old faithfull ugly Ukey, Saturday morning did a test flight, lost it in the sun inverted and dork, sheared the outboard wing off, went to Kmart, (nobody had any epoxy) got her all fixed up. Put in my first official for P-40 and in the square 8 I got rattled, (only the 4 or 5 time I tried this manuever) and dorked it again, sigh,, out comes the epoxy. second official the engine run was c##p. after much diagnoses discovered the backplate had a hairline crack, a friend loaned me a motor to use but then one of my other flying buddies (we were all 400 miles from home, on the westside of the state) offered his abused tutor too. I agreed only if he let me buy it from him, you all understand right? I mean 5 flights 4 crashes, I wasnt real confident. anyway,, Sunday put up one familiarization flight and then first official, hm not to bad survived, whew, second official, not one of my better flights but enough to garner me the trophy. I have the Excaliber in repairs, the Twister is almost fixed, the Ukey is all well. Have two more on the board for next year, by cracky I am gonna go like a combat flier from now on, I think what maybe 4 airplanes per contest I should be ok?
Actually since then I have not even had a rouch landing, so that must have been my initiation rite of passage?
Alas, I havent any pictures of the crashes only the fondest (ahem ok maybe not so fond) memories in my brain.
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This was my last crash (I think). The Humongus was already toast and given away...the wing split down the datum plane...LE to TE. I had no idea how to fix it, and I've been crashing since I was a pup. I bought this "Lancer" (dunno what it was, but that's what it said on the wing, at least 4th owner. Maybe an SV-11 or other Randy Aero design, somewhat modified. The wing was fully sheeted, but not foam cored. The horizontal tail was foam cored, tho. It didn't fly as well as one could hope...but I still liked flying it, because the (early?) Double Star .60bb was just awesome. I was working on outside squares, and I think my bifocals got me confused as to where the ground really was. It also didn't turn equally in/out, either, which is a problem that really needs to be resolved. It messes up your timing and expectations. In this case, I pulled out just at ground level -1", took the prop blades off, bounced back into the air, and went vertical. It was the stall/bonk that really killed the model, not the initial slide job. :X Steve
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Here is my son Will a few years ago with the Jr Streak that just wont die. It has been repaired, rebuilt, re-engined, and still keeps coming back for more. You can see both the plane and the pilot as they look now in one of Phil's pics from the Central Florida Fly-in 2 weeks ago.
I would recomend the Streak Jr as a Trainer to anyone, this one is covered in poly span or ceconite, and the wing is as tough as they come. Countless crashes and I've never had to do more than cut into the wingtip and glue the structure back together. The fuse is pretty much epoxy coated by now, but it still flies.
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I had to jump in on this one. ;D
The pictures below show the very first ARF to carry the Brodak name. The Profile Cardinal, of course. It was sent to us for evaluation before any production was started. It was show to the public for the first time at KOI a few years back. j1 j1
The first picture shows it when first completed. :)
After the event, I loaned it to a friend who was getting into C/L. Seems like there was a small encounter with an asphalt parking lot and the lot won. SH^
The next two pictures show how it was returned to me – in TWO SHOPPING BAGS, I might add!!! :'( :'(
The last picture shows the plane after I repaired it. I did in fact write an article for a stunt magazine, documenting the entire repair procedure. Should be available from the archives. ;D ;D
Normally, I would have tossed it but I truly consider it to be a part of history – not only as the first Brodak ARF but possibly the best flying profile stunt plane ever made. Certainly one of the most popular. y1 y1
Bob Z.
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I never have taken a picture of anything that I busted. Shoot there wouldn't be enough space on the web to hos them all.
When I first started I didn't know anything about building. So I just stuck them together and hoped for the best. I bought a Jetco dolphin cause I already had a fox 35 so I figured I needed a model to put it in.
I built the model. Took it to Kansas City to the Circle just off 63'rd street and got some help breaking in the engine.
Put it back in the model and hooked the lines up. Fired the engine and the helper let it go. Went about 10 feet banked in due to line weight, and went right past me at head height. When it got to the end of the lines, it sort of slapped the ground and exploded.
The guy that was helping me asked me how much wingtip weight I put in it. What's that? was my question.
Anyway we laughed picked up the pieces, (still have the stab and elevator someplace) , and he let my fly his ringmaster. I tell you I learned more in one afternoon than a couple of months floundering around by myself.
Then I built and busted too many to count. Bought a ringmaster from a fellow flyer and its been busted and repaired at least 4 times. One new fuse and who knows what else.
Anyway. That's why we build them ain't it?
Best to all
Bill
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It was an Akromaster till about noon today. Lines got slack. All cleaned up now, but it will be a while before I glue it back together. My wife thinks it's dead, but what does she know.
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One of the more heatbreaking crashes of one of my planes...and I wasn't even the one that crashed it. 8)
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Well, I tried to post the pictures, but I guess the forum doesn't like me tonight. 5 tries is my limit. Sigh...
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Hello,
After 4 years without reviewing some friends of Control Line, them they had decided to come back with all force!
2 FLite Streak 1 Naj B4 and 1 lost engine!
Bye
Fernando
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bye
Fernando
www.freewebs.com/voocircular
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This one belongs to LLoyd Gregory. He ran out of gas exiting the cloverleaf at the 2005 Tulsa Gluedobber Fall Contest. The nose and outside wing have hit but the parts are still re-arranging themselves.
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Was that a tutor arf ? ???
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It was one of the big Giles foam winged profiles from the Corehouse. Here's a shot from earlier on the same flight.
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on that cardinal that must have been some crash it knocked the decals right off the wing. nice job of rebuilding it.
mark eisenhut
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how bout a busted up buster
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~~> Jeez, Joey...Busters aren't supposed to go 200mph. No wonder it crashed. Probably stab flutter done it in! **) Steve
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here is a hole in one
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this d speed hit the dolly on landing