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Title: Question for VSC people
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on March 10, 2007, 12:06:26 PM
Does anybody know if the Bob Palmer Smoothie is Old Time legal.  I know it is Classic legal, just wondered about Old Time.  I intend to take one to VSC as a backup plane to my Stuka Stunt.
Andy Borgogna
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Bill Little on March 10, 2007, 12:11:57 PM
Does anybody know if the Bob Palmer Smoothie is Old Time legal.  I know it is Classic legal, just wondered about Old Time.  I intend to take one to VSC as a backup plane to my Stuka Stunt.
Andy Borgogna

Hi Andy,

It is legal.

Bill <><
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on March 10, 2007, 05:17:40 PM
Thanks again Bill, that gives me two planes to compete in Old Time and Classic.  If you are at VSC I sure hope to meet you.
Andy
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: john e. holliday on March 10, 2007, 08:01:31 PM
The old DOC is halfway there.  Will probably out monday sometime.  I am staying at wifes aunt place.   Later,  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Bill Little on March 10, 2007, 10:18:28 PM
Thanks again Bill, that gives me two planes to compete in Old Time and Classic.  If you are at VSC I sure hope to meet you.
Andy

HI Andy,

Have fun!  It will be at least two more years before I can make it to VSC.  But I will. y1

Bill <><
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on March 11, 2007, 09:46:55 AM
Look forward to meeting you Doc, and Bill I will be there (God willing) in two years and the first beer is on me.   
Andy
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Bill Little on March 11, 2007, 11:19:17 AM
Look forward to meeting you Doc, and Bill I will be there (God willing) in two years and the first beer is on me.   
Andy

It's a deal....... Good Lord willin and the creek don't rise!

Bill <><
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Marvin Denny on March 11, 2007, 07:13:22 PM
  Maybe by then I will be able to get back out there

  Bigiron
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Bill Little on March 11, 2007, 08:13:47 PM
  Maybe by then I will be able to get back out there

  Bigiron

That would be great. ;D  I couldn't get to Brodak's when you were there..........

Bill <><
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Chris McMillin on March 12, 2007, 10:35:52 AM
Does anybody know if the Bob Palmer Smoothie is Old Time legal.  I know it is Classic legal, just wondered about Old Time.  I intend to take one to VSC as a backup plane to my Stuka Stunt.
Andy Borgogna


What is a Palmer Smoothie, the Brodak "Patternmaster" wing kit, or the Veco kit? Or something else?
Chris...
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Andrew Borgogna on March 12, 2007, 10:50:32 AM
Well Chris "was" is the word.  It was a Brodak ARF, one of the best flying planes I have ever owned.  Yesterday I took it out for a check flight to make any last minute trim or engine adjustments.  The new O.S. 40 FP I modified with a couple of head shims, venturi and an O.S. A3 plug was running superb.  I just finished the vertical eight and was pulling some up to level out the plane and all control went away.  The plane plunged in strate in on it's nose.  Good thing I was flying on soft damp grass, the engine was not hurt.  The plane was a total loss.  At first I thought a cable pulled out, but when I inspected the plane it turned out the push rod from the bellcrank to the flap horn was not connected.  I checked the wire for signs of damage indicating it came out from the crash, no it was in perfect condition just now where it belonged.  The push rod was secured by one of those spring like retainers that rap around the push rod and slip over the bended end.  I guess it came free from the first crash and I just didn't know.

Learned two things from this alway crash test a plane before taking it to an event, it would have been very bad for my ego if this had happened at VSC and second rap wire and solder a retainer on the push rod.  It's really too bad because the plane was flying just great.  Oh well, I guess it's time to break the Score out of the box and get it flying.

See you in Tucson!
Andy
Title: Re: Question for VSC people
Post by: Ward Van Duzer on March 12, 2007, 07:47:33 PM

Learn to solder music wire.! ::)

Those little squigglies are OK for 1/2 A's but anything else your'e on your own!



Ward-o