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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Randy Cuberly on September 02, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
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Hi,
Anyone know where to obtain full size plans for Al Rabe's Mustunt II and Mustunt III?
I did a cursory search and came up empty handed except for some site that converted DOC files to PDF flile for free down loads...didn't work either!
Thanks,
Randy Cuberly
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http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6443
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http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6372
Didn't he give them to PAMPA
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AMA lists them all together - look under "M"
Mustunt 1, 2, 3 - from AAM.
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http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6372
Didn't he give them to PAMPA
PAMPA has only the Mustang and the Bearcat.
Randy Cuberly
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http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6443
Jim,
I tried to get this to download several times but couldn't get it to work...could be me or my very old computer. I'm building a new one!
Mike,
Thanks I'll grit my teeth and try the AMA.
Randy Cuberly
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I had no issue with the downloads.
The articles associated with the plans is an absolute must-read. I would put it second on the list of required reading construction articles behind the Imitation article. I really got started with thinking about engineering WRT stunt from reading the Mustunt article, and it is chock full of nuggets. There are some aspects of it that are obsolete or superceded, but the fundamentals are very sound.
The airplane itself is a very good flier. It doesn't fly exactly like a current airplane but it might be nearly optimum for a Fox.
Brett
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I had no issue with the downloads.
The articles associated with the plans is an absolute must-read. I would put it second on the list of required reading construction articles behind the Imitation article. I really got started with thinking about engineering WRT stunt from reading the Mustunt article, and it is chock full of nuggets. There are some aspects of it that are obsolete or superceded, but the fundamentals are very sound.
The airplane itself is a very good flier. It doesn't fly exactly like a current airplane but it might be nearly optimum for a Fox.
Brett
Well I finally did find the plan on the AMA Plans Service. Like everything else connected with the AMA I found thier site confusing and difficult to find things on until I finally lucked into the right list and simply used the alphabet.
Go figure.
Thanks Mike Anderson.
Brett thanks for your comments. Somewhere in my archives I have that article about the Mustunt series and read it a very long time ago.
I doubt that I will ever actually get to build one of these things (I have way too many pots boiling right now) but who knows miracles happen. Larry Foster built one of the Mustunt II airplanes a very long time ago and it flew very well, at least by the standards we were using at that time...I flew it several times but if I remember correctly Larry had installed a three line system in it and we were experimenting with throttle control for flying the pattern...uhhh not very successfully experimenting I might add...It was fun though.
Thanks,
Randy Cuberly
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MUSTUNT I-II-III - Al Rabe plan of 48 to 52" classic series of designs for .35 power. "1" is a profile with upright engine. Others have built-up fuselage. American Aircraft Modeler, 2/73. I: $10.00, II $10.00, III: $8.00 (Number III needs number II also).
Info on Tom Dixon's website:
tomdixon.tripod.com
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I had no issue with the downloads.
The airplane itself is a very good flier. It doesn't fly exactly like a current airplane but it might be nearly optimum for a Fox.
Brett
Exactly, Brett. Friend built the II several years ago for a Fox 35, and it was a very good flier.
Dennis
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is there a reason you want mustunt 1,2,3
Al had done an updated mustunt lV a few year back on the other c/l board.
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Hi,
Anyone know where to obtain full size plans for Al Rabe's Mustunt II and Mustunt III?
I did a cursory search and came up empty handed except for some site that converted DOC files to PDF flile for free down loads...didn't work either!
Thanks,
Randy Cuberly
Actually I own the rights to sell the Mustunt plans files so let me know what you need. see vendors section.
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You can sways try to get them from Al Rabe (me) at alsf8f@yahoo.com. If you like the airplanes, I also have a few extra copies of the Feb 1973 American Aircraft Modeler, $5 including postage. Magazines are new and include a lengthy article and plans for Mustunts I, II, III. I also have the original ink drawings which can be copied. I don't recommend the Mustunt III. Its only change was the tapered wing which shortened the nose too much.Thirty years later I corrected that problem with the Mustunt IV. I put the wing on the bottom of the fuselage with dihedral to position the leadout location. The airplane flies and maneuvers upright and inverted with the wings level. I also added shock gears and a stretched the fuselage which vastly improved the appearance of the airplane. Mustunts II, III, and IV are all the same aft of the cockpit. It is also the best flyer. Mustunt II and III plans from the magazine are $15 including postage. There is also an 11 part Mustunt IV tutorial on Stuka Stunt which runs more than 30,000 words and tons of photos. This complete article is also a part of Al's Models 4 DVD including plans to all of my airplanes.
Al
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I got the Mustunt IV plans from Al Rabe last year. They are very nice and designed for the LA-46. I'd go with that!
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I can still remember when Al published the articles. I immediately sent off and got the plans. Built the Mustunt I and flew it a lot. Still have the plans some where in the shop. Don't forget he also showed two different airfoils if I remember right. Guess I should build another one. I do have one of his kits on the shelf for the later Mustunt.
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I had no issue with the downloads.
The articles associated with the plans is an absolute must-read. I would put it second on the list of required reading construction articles behind the Imitation article. I really got started with thinking about engineering WRT stunt from reading the Mustunt article, and it is chock full of nuggets. There are some aspects of it that are obsolete or superceded, but the fundamentals are very sound.
Brett
1. Ted Fancher Imitation article
2. Al Rabes Mustunt\Bearcat articles
3. Jim Silhavy Barbell Effect,(I believe that was Jim's).
4. Chris Lella's series of articles, (forgot the name)
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Chris Lella's articles deal with balancing a plane in roll, pitch and yaw -- one article for each axis.
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You can sways try to get them from Al Rabe (me) at alsf8f@yahoo.com. If you like the airplanes, I also have a few extra copies of the Feb 1973 American Aircraft Modeler, $5 including postage. Magazines are new and include a lengthy article and plans for Mustunts I, II, III. I also have the original ink drawings which can be copied. I don't recommend the Mustunt III. Its only change was the tapered wing which shortened the nose too much.Thirty years later I corrected that problem with the Mustunt IV. I put the wing on the bottom of the fuselage with dihedral to position the leadout location. The airplane flies and maneuvers upright and inverted with the wings level. I also added shock gears and a stretched the fuselage which vastly improved the appearance of the airplane. Mustunts II, III, and IV are all the same aft of the cockpit. It is also the best flyer. Mustunt II and III plans from the magazine are $15 including postage. There is also an 11 part Mustunt IV tutorial on Stuka Stunt which runs more than 30,000 words and tons of photos. This complete article is also a part of Al's Models 4 DVD including plans to all of my airplanes.
Al
And I agree that if you are selling them, that should be the source.
I can't tell you how much I have learned from reading your various articles over the years, and I think everyone would benefit.
Brett
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On trimming articles. Find the series by P. Walker on www.flyinglines.org. Reading them saves a lot of time experimenting.
Floyd