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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Gene O'Keefe on November 18, 2010, 02:15:01 PM

Title: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on November 18, 2010, 02:15:01 PM
Okay - let's say you lucky enough to get a PA 40 Merlin ultra lite R.E.  ----- what plane would you put it in ?
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: John Miller on November 18, 2010, 03:08:57 PM
A Pathfinder L.E.
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Grady Widener on November 18, 2010, 03:27:54 PM
Steve Buso Vegas with reduced aspect ratio (4 to 1 instead of 5) tail feathers that split 60-40 stab to elevator.
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Matt Colan on November 18, 2010, 04:48:11 PM
My Oriental Plus has had that motor in it all year, and flies it with ease, so that would be my recommendation  ;D
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Randy Powell on November 18, 2010, 05:16:35 PM
Well, that's a tough question. There are several from a light profile like Pathfinder to an Impact. Most any stunter from 600 to 700 square inches could be flown with the PA either with or without pipe. It's a good, solid and consistent engine.
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Paul Taylor on November 18, 2010, 06:23:01 PM
I think Zuriel is wrapping a plane around one as I type this. I don't think his plans have been published yet.
Or maybe a Geo Jr?
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Aaron Little on November 18, 2010, 06:56:38 PM

Stiletto 660?
N30 and Pampa classes!
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Chris McMillin on November 18, 2010, 07:04:43 PM
Now your talkin".
Chris...
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Doug Moon on November 18, 2010, 08:11:16 PM
Randy Smith designed Satona. Curt Contrada flew one into the Top5 in 2002.  It is an SV series plane but running around 630 squares.  Perfect fit for that motor.  At least I think so.

Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Steve Fitton on November 19, 2010, 07:30:21 AM
Randy Smith designed Satona. Curt Contrada flew one into the Top5 in 2002.  It is an SV series plane but running around 630 squares.  Perfect fit for that motor.  At least I think so.



You would need to add some nose weight for that.  The 40 UL is much lighter than the regular PA 40 the plane was designed around.  But I bet it would be a killer motor in one of the Bear variants; I bet there is one that would be well suited to an 8.5 oz motor!
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Allen Brickhaus on November 19, 2010, 08:01:18 AM
I have contemplated a Buccaneer 740 or a Legacy 40 with the advent of smaller models with .65.  Jim Aron's stunter at the Nats flew well with a .65 in a 585 square inch model.  Thus a PA 40UL should not be an over-powering event in the Buccaneer 740 (575 square inches) or the Legacy 40 with 565 square inches.  I would put the gear in the wing and use a trench for the pipe.  This makes pipe length adjustments easier and clearance less of a problem.  Using a quiet pipe will tone done the sound of the pipe in a trench.  Simply draw a side view which will hide the pipe.

Allen Brickhaus
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Mike Scholtes on November 19, 2010, 10:44:44 AM
I have this motor on pipe in an Oriental Plus, 605 inches. This model was recommended to me by an elite flyer when I asked him the same question at the Golden State contest two years ago.
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Rick Campbell on November 19, 2010, 11:18:47 AM
Steve Buso's Kestrel would be great.
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: Bill Little on November 19, 2010, 12:10:49 PM
My three choices: 

USA-1

Genesis MK III (.46 size)

Stiletto 660

Big Bear
Title: Re: Plane for PA 40
Post by: RandySmith on November 19, 2010, 12:13:54 PM
Randy Smith designed Satona. Curt Contrada flew one into the Top5 in 2002.  It is an SV series plane but running around 630 squares.  Perfect fit for that motor.  At least I think so.



Right you are Doug the Satona will work very well with this combo with a few very minor tweeks to the plane, nose moment and maybe trim the wing and stab down 1 inch
The other that will work very well are the
Standard Vector
Vector 40
Shrike
Staris
the Jaguar
Cobra
Ken Taylors' KISMET
Buso Lite Wave
USA-1...just ask Bob McDonald or Billy
Juno
630 Junar
Roadrunner
Cascade 545
VECTRA
lil  Bear
Stiletto first one , not  the  660 would be my choice of that series 
Hallmark
Stunt machine


Randy