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Title: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: the original Steve Smith on September 26, 2009, 07:38:50 PM: Joe took these in the early 60s at Buder Park in St. Louis Missouri. We need help identifying the planes and the builders. They all have AMA numbers, I'm hoping that helps.

The first is a Skylark with AMA # 19183 and we think a Detroiter in the background.
Second is a Nobler with AMA # 15748 - Joe thinks it is either Art Schaeffer's or Ron O'Toole's Dad's.
Third is an Ares with AMA # 18125
Fourth may be a modified Nobler or is it something else? AMA # 18847
Last is an Aegis with AMA # 6828.
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: Alan Resinger on September 26, 2009, 09:50:33 PM: The last picture, the Aegis has Gary Zeller's AMA number on it.
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: Matt Colan on September 27, 2009, 06:10:33 AM: That Ares looks more like an Argus or an Apollo, than it does an Ares. But still, that plane is named Ares so I guess it is one.
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: George on September 27, 2009, 07:09:56 AM: Looks to me like that plane says Aves, not Ares...possibly because it's modified?

George
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: Steve Helmick on September 27, 2009, 12:06:10 PM: Quote from: George Bain on September 27, 2009, 07:09:56 AM
Looks to me like that plane says Aves, not Ares...possibly because it's modified?

George

By George, you're right! Good catch! LL~ Steve
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: Matt Colan on September 27, 2009, 01:46:18 PM: Quote from: George Bain on September 27, 2009, 07:09:56 AM
Looks to me like that plane says Aves, not Ares...possibly because it's modified?

George

George, it does say Aves, nice catch.
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: John Sunderland on September 27, 2009, 10:45:27 PM: I may be way off base here, but that Aves kinda looks like a Jerry Phelps plane possibly. Was this a contest pic maybe?
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to
Post by: the original Steve Smith on September 28, 2009, 08:06:48 AM: Quote from: John Sunderland on September 27, 2009, 10:45:27 PM
I may be way off base here, but that Aves kinda looks like a Jerry Phelps plane possibly. Was this a contest pic maybe?

John - Yes, I think Joe Thompson took these at a contest in Buder Park here in St. Louis in the early 60's.
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: John Sunderland on September 28, 2009, 01:43:56 PM: Jerrys early birds were Neptune inspired but began to look more Ares-ish as the 60s progressed. I will ask him or simply compare recent AMA numbers from pics, but if I remember right he couldnt get his old number back or something so maybe that wouldnt work. I will snoop around.
Title: Re: Pics from Joe Thompson - Stunters at Buder Park in Early 60s - need help to ID
Post by: Zuriel Armstrong on September 28, 2009, 04:28:34 PM: The Skylark in the first picture is Ed Southwick's AMA number.