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Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« on: February 23, 2022, 02:42:06 PM »
We have lucked out and found a nice place to fly indoors. Matt is a city employee and airport manager who also flies RC and CL. He helped us gain access to the city activities building and we have begun flying our indoor foamy models. I made several of Igor Burgers GeeBee model kits and we spent some nights at the airport building them.

Here is a video, in the raw, of our first flying session.



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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2022, 04:10:18 PM »
Good show guys. Looks like fun.
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2022, 04:19:54 PM »
Indoor electric saber dancing!  Not bad!!

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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2022, 05:50:15 PM »
We're talking about combat.....
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2022, 05:51:04 PM »
Good show guys. Looks like fun.

It is a load of fun. We're flying again tomorrow evening.
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2022, 01:31:28 PM »
 The old DOC enjoyed watching the video.  The later flight reminds me of flying a Bi-Slob.  I told the wife I think I could fly one of those, especially with a smooth floor to stand on.   Can't think of joinong you guys because of distance.  Physical problems the doctor can't or won't tell me about.   Just go out without warning to come to and wonder what I was doing.  But keep having fun guys, just maybe I can talk my gran daughter into driving down some time. D>K H^^
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2022, 06:35:17 AM »
The old DOC enjoyed watching the video.  The later flight reminds me of flying a Bi-Slob.  I told the wife I think I could fly one of those, especially with a smooth floor to stand on.   Can't think of joinong you guys because of distance.  Physical problems the doctor can't or won't tell me about.   Just go out without warning to come to and wonder what I was doing.  But keep having fun guys, just maybe I can talk my gran daughter into driving down some time. D>K H^^

The last one was me flying my new timer / control. I had the power turned way low to see how well the gain would perform taking over. Someone mess around with code that was working pretty good. Last nights performance was far better. We're probably going to do an "official" fun fly at some point.
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2022, 12:03:25 PM »
What’s the calling height?
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2022, 12:15:58 PM »
What’s the calling height?

About 28 feet by laser measurement. We have around 10" clearance between the wingtip and the ceiling. We think, depending on how high your hand is stretched above.  We're making the lines such that handle to outboard wingtip is 21 feet giving 7 feet for the person flying with hand outstretched above.
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2022, 03:35:39 PM »
About 28 feet by laser measurement. We have around 10" clearance between the wingtip and the ceiling. We think, depending on how high your hand is stretched above.  We're making the lines such that handle to outboard wingtip is 21 feet giving 7 feet for the person flying with hand outstretched above.

So what are you slowing the RPM down to. And what prop. Igor’s setup is for a higher calling, and longer lines.
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2022, 04:26:41 PM »
So what are you slowing the RPM down to. And what prop. Igor’s setup is for a higher calling, and longer lines.

I'm sure Igor is flying 5 meter lines, at least that's what he told me he was using and we're slightly longer than that by 1/2 meter.  Our lines handle to tip are 21 feet minus one meter wingspan which works out to be 5.46 meters.

I haven't any idea what the prop is turning as my tach doesn't work inside with the lights. It's enough to hold the airplane vertical against my hand on the ground. That's my normal way of initially setting up a new airplane. The motors on these airplanes are the Suppo 2208/17 1100 kv a bit above half throttle so probably around 4000 - 4500 with the 2s battery we're using.

The prop we like for these airplanes is the APC 10x4.6 SF. Igor likes the GWS 10 x 4.6 which we haven't tried yet. It's lighter than the APC and will have less precession. The precession on these guys is very noticeable as is the huge amount of aft line position but that's about the only way to fly so slow and maintain good line tension. We have tried the APC 10x4.7 SF but it's big paddle blades and weight cause big time precession.

I haven't tried the 9x4 at Igor's input since he says it isn't enough to get the vertical performance. The new Mystery Ship model is slightly smaller than the GeeBee and it may want the smaller propeller. It should fly tomorrow. We'll see.
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Re: Indoor flying in KS - new YouTube video
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2022, 06:32:03 AM »
I flew the new Mystery Ship yesterday and all of us biased Wichitains like it. Here's the first flight:


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