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NEW ** PA 75 New run Orders will Stay open
« on: July 01, 2016, 12:30:11 PM »
PA 75 -RE  New run Taking orders now, please contact me  Randy Smith  678 407 9376   Randyaero@msn.com

The PA 75 run will be sent in for  production  SOON  , the  orders will remain open for purchase until a while longer, I will post status and info, if anything else please  call or email for info

Randy Smith
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« Last Edit: July 28, 2016, 03:21:18 PM by RandySmith »

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2016, 01:03:46 PM »
Randy:

Is the crankcase of the 75 the same size as the 61 or is it larger (i.e., would it be a drop-in replacement for the PA-61)?

Thanks,
Scott

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2016, 01:10:16 PM »
Answer to questions I am getting are  "  The  run will take about 6 months from the time the run is ordered,  The run will start after all the orders are put in by pilots , and No  you cant order after the run has started or wait until they come in, If there are extras and I have more I will only know that in about 5 or 6 months , the orders are to be prepaid before the run is started ,  there must be a minimum of 50 , and there is not maximum number on the order, we can run whatever quantity is ordered

Thanks
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« Last Edit: July 13, 2016, 10:45:01 AM by RandySmith »

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2016, 12:17:47 PM »
PM info sent to everyone who ask, or email Randyaero@msn.com

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 11:55:49 PM »
Randy:

Is the crankcase of the 75 the same size as the 61 or is it larger (i.e., would it be a drop-in replacement for the PA-61)?

Thanks,
Scott

Slightly larger by about 50 thou, header is the same, same mount as the  ST 60

Randy

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2016, 08:31:57 PM »
Not to point out the obvious, but you may not get a lot of chances to get possibly the ultimate (in all senses of the word) IC stunt engine - the last and arguably the best of the breed (certainly top 2-3) ever likely to be made.

    Brett

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2016, 01:10:29 AM »
Not to point out the obvious, but you may not get a lot of chances to get possibly the ultimate (in all senses of the word) IC stunt engine - the last and arguably the best of the breed (certainly top 2-3) ever likely to be made.

    Brett

I'm kind of new to CL, very new to bigger planes, so it's not obvious to me why this is the best of the breed.  For instance I think I've only seen one or two plans/kits that specify a .75 size engine: Paul Walker's Impact and a derivative of that: The Paladin.  The largest model I've seen in person was a Strega, 60" span / 742 sq in and that big ol' plane only uses a 51-60.  Are there other designs to fit this monster?  What are they?

Someone please post some of the top reasons why anyone would want to spend $500 on this enormous engine.

Thank you.

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2016, 02:56:50 AM »
SOMETIMES , ya dont NEED a Reason , its just " BECAUSE "





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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2016, 04:23:08 AM »
I'm kind of new to CL, very new to bigger planes, so it's not obvious to me why this is the best of the breed.  For instance I think I've only seen one or two plans/kits that specify a .75 size engine: Paul Walker's Impact and a derivative of that: The Paladin.  The largest model I've seen in person was a Strega, 60" span / 742 sq in and that big ol' plane only uses a 51-60.  Are there other designs to fit this monster?  What are they?

Someone please post some of the top reasons why anyone would want to spend $500 on this enormous engine.

   OY!  The definitive model using a PA75 is 625 square inches (David Fitzgerald's Thundergazer) and 64 ounces. The prop used (Eather 13-4.25 3-blade (flat back)) is also usable on the PA and RO-Jett 61s, and maybe the PA51 in a stretch.

     You don't need a larger engine to "get more power" or to fly a larger airplanes. Almost all the engines used in stunt from a piped 40 to a piped 91 (which has been tried) put out around the same horsepower on average, and almost all of them have reasonably close to the same response in the maneuvers in terms of HP increase.

     Why you might want a PA75 is that the ease of getting the kind of response required to fly almost any airplane. It is easier to get the right response and more reliable than most (almost all) of those engines that went before it. Sure, you *could* get an absolutely astonishing amount of power out of it, but a 625 square inch 64 ounce airplane needs no more power to fly around at 5.4 second laps than it did in 1980 with a ST46. What you want is *control*, and why the PA75 is better than almost all of what came before it is that you can pretty easily get exactly the response you want. David's PA75 setup uses a prop that could easily be swung by a PA51 and for sure works fine on a RO-Jett 61 (since I have run the same type of Eather 13-4.25 on mine, no problems aside from slight trim degradation).

    The 75 can be set up to idle around in a constant 4-stroke all day long and provide sufficient power. This definitively solves the problem most people have with smaller engines (whether they know it is a problem or not) - excessive power change during a 4-2 break. The other alternative is to run it across the break and use compression ratio, nitro, and venturi adjustments to get an acceptably small power boost when it goes from 4 to 2. Do this on lesser engines and you tend to lose enough power than you are trading off overall power VS reduction in break. The 75 can be adjusted to the point that you gain *no* power at all at a break, and still have enough overall to fly the airplane with authority. Even with a 61, that's a much trickier proposition, you can do it, but it' a much more careful balancing act.

     I don't fly the 75, so I have no stake in it at all, but that's the reason.

   Getting more power or swinging bigger props hasn't been an issue for stunt planes since about 1988, they ALL have enough power in terms of raw HP, from a 36 to  91 and you don't want or need large props to get better performance.  What you want is to be able to control it in all conditions, and the PA75 is about the best of the breed in those terms.

    Brett

   

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2016, 04:59:33 AM »
I agree with Brett
The PA 75 is a terrific IC engine....
From what I have seen, the 75 is super easy to tune and very user friendly...

Have fun!

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2016, 09:42:48 AM »
The PA 75 was designed 100% as a C/L   RE stunt engine, it is basically the same  weight  as a Magnum 46 , Thunder Tiger 46, Super Tiger 60. right at 12 oz
It is an extremely high quality, and long lasting AAC  engine, that is one of the best running and easy to set engines I have ever worked with. It will give  years of service and fly any mid to large stuntship that I have seen out there. It is perfect for SV-11 sized ships and wonderful on large Scale/stunt  ships

The order for the run will be turned in just after the NATs

Randy

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2016, 11:32:42 AM »
Can you also buy extra piston/sleeve/rod with the engine?


MM

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2016, 11:48:27 AM »
The 75 has become my favorite PA and I've only run it for about 30 flights in my SV-11.  The amount of power that's available is amazing! When I first started flying the airplane, I flew a flight at 5.7 compared to 5.3 and the engine kept pulling the airplane without breaking a sweat.  It's very easy to setup, just follow Randy's pipe chart and 95% of the work has probably been done for you.

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2016, 11:55:50 AM »
Can you also buy extra piston/sleeve/rod with the engine?


MM

I've never seen anyone need one.  This is probably the most reliable easy to use stunt engine available anywhere.  However knowing Randy Smith I can definitely say that parts will be available!  Randy has always supported his products with first class service.

Brett said it best.   This engine is simply the easiest to use properly and get first class control and results from.

The window of setup for great results in very wide...it works very well in just about any type of environment without having to make setup changes.

Randy Cuberly
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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2016, 12:37:27 PM »
Can you also buy extra piston/sleeve/rod with the engine?


MM

Yes , also  bearings, wrist pins   clips,  venturies, seals  , shims , etc.....

regards
Randy

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2016, 01:54:35 PM »
Randy,

Please add me to the list for a PA75.  I also sent you a PM

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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2016, 01:57:10 PM »
I'm kind of new to CL, very new to bigger planes, so it's not obvious to me why this is the best of the breed.  

Thank you.

Paul W.


We need to be a little kinder and nicer guys. Paul stated that he was new to CL. Prior to the PA, the ST46 and 60's ruled the roost worldwide. Our Randy Smith, came up with what would become the equivalent of the RC F3A worlds, YS Line of motors, the PA's. What the supercharged YS became to their world, the PA became to ours, the greatest CL stunt motors on the planet. Unlike now, these motors came in a wide range of sizes from 40 to 75. But, in every size and category they were the worlds best-period.

That was the good news. The bad news-they stopped making them rather abruptly. Now they are back. My personal favorite and, the motor that I was going to base my program around was the PA 65 side exhaust. Paul, if you saw one of these motors in action, you would want one! The CL team race world had their greatest engine. The RC pattern world had their greatest engine. Randy Smith gave us our greatest engine, the PA’s.

Like all things that are the absolute best, they aren’t cheap but, these motors are designed for world class competiton at the highest level. For all intents and porposes, when you purchase one of these motors, you can forget about your front-end, and focus on your design and practice regime.
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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2016, 06:56:03 PM »
We need to be a little kinder and nicer guys. Paul stated that he was new to CL.


   I don't think anyone is picking on him. Certainly I didn't intend to. But the answer to his question is something that is still *widely* understood by stunt people, so it needed to be stated very clearly.

    There are still plenty of people who *aren't* beginners, far from it, that don't really get that the power problem was solved in something like 1978 and the control issue was definitively solved in about 1988. The explanation, too, goes back to before there was an internet.

      Brett\
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Re: PA 75 New run Taking orders now
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2016, 12:17:52 PM »
I have over 60 now,  so when I get back from the NATs, I will wait a week or so and let anyone who wants them order, and collect the funds from the orders  to send in.

Randy

I am so glad to here the order will be going ahead. I have been trying to find one of these engines for over two years with no luck. People who have them are keeping them. That says a lot. Thanks Randy.

I have two on order and can hardly wait. Let's see if we can get it over 100.  (PE**) CLP**
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Re: PA 75 New run , Will start August 1st
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2016, 08:15:34 PM »
Hi Randy, will you have the coupler and pipe available for the .75?
Specifically, the larger pipe the Dave is using.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

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Re: PA 75 New run , Will start August 1st
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2016, 09:59:53 PM »
Hi Randy, will you have the coupler and pipe available for the .75?
Specifically, the larger pipe the Dave is using.

Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team

I will have pipes back in stock, headers in stock now, and I will have all sizes of pipes

Randy

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Re: NEW ** PA 75 New run Orders will Stay open
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2016, 02:45:46 PM »
Update on orders , I have over 90  ordered now, as of Aug.  3rd , if you want one please call or email  , or any questions on the PA 75  please contact me  Randy Smith  678 407 9376   Randyaero@msn.com

The PA 75 run will be sent in for  production  very SOON , just waiting on final detail from the Foundry  , the  orders will remain open for purchase for a while longer, I will post status and info, if anything else please  call or email for info   

Randy Smith
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Re: NEW ** PA 75 New run Orders will Stay open
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2016, 07:32:45 PM »
As happy and content owner of a 65 and 75, this is wonderful news!  There is no better or friendlier stunt powerplant out there.  Way to go, Randy!!  (I've actually flown the 65 enough to go through a set of bearings and the 75 is likely getting close) Never a glitch in a run in all those flights/gallons of fuel.
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