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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Frank Wadle on October 08, 2014, 02:45:43 AM

Title: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Frank Wadle on October 08, 2014, 02:45:43 AM
Hello,

I need some help.
I'm building a P47-N (Bubble) Thunderbolt for F2B and I need a canopy for it.
Does someone know a source for a P47 canopy?
Maybe a other WWII canopy would work too (P51 Mustang,....)
It is not a scale project, just a semiscale stunter, so it is enough if the canopy looks almost like the real one :-)

Any help is welcome!

Frank Wadle
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Perry Rose on October 08, 2014, 04:17:11 AM
Try Brodak. They may have a spare for the T-Rex.
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: goozgog on October 08, 2014, 04:37:02 AM
  Just a historical note. The original P-47 bubble
canopy was transplanted from a Hawker Typhoon.
  I wonder if a Typhoon canopy might be close?

Cheers!
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: RC Storick on October 08, 2014, 04:53:45 AM
I used a Sig WWII on my 3 bubble Tbolts
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Frank Wadle on October 08, 2014, 05:24:36 AM
Robert, what size Sig WWII canopy did you use?
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Steve Thomas on October 08, 2014, 06:25:48 AM
Hi Frank, RSM make a nice P-51 canopy which might suit, if your model's around .35-.46 size. Alternatively, it's not too hard to make your own if you make a balsa mold and use it with a clear PET bottle and a heat gun.

Steve
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Frank Wadle on October 08, 2014, 07:07:02 AM
Hello Steve,

my P47 is 60 size at about 60,5" wingspan.
The fuselage has a rather big crosssection, almost scale like.
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Avaiojet on October 08, 2014, 07:17:38 AM
Frank,

Here ya go!

http://parkflyerplastics.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=31_32&products_id=195
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Trostle on October 08, 2014, 08:46:41 AM
Park Flyer has all sorts of canopies listed.  You might want to check.  I am sure there will be one there that will fit, like one he has done for a Rabe Sea Fury. Lot of other neat stuff on that site also.

http://parkflyerplastics.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index

Let us know what you think.

Keith
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: RC Storick on October 08, 2014, 09:51:17 AM
Robert, what size Sig WWII canopy did you use?

You can use the 9 or 11 and cut to fit.
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Randy Powell on October 08, 2014, 02:54:18 PM
The Park Fliers site has some very cool canopies. Thanks for that link.
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: RandySmith on October 08, 2014, 03:55:15 PM
The SIG 9 inch works , and looks good

Randy
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: M Spencer on October 08, 2014, 07:51:30 PM
The BEARCAT & Typhoon / Tempest Canopies were closly related . The P-47s a trifle larger ;
Though the Bearcat is almost a similar shape .

Ive got a plug for a P-47 Razorback & Bubbletop & a dozen others , with a accurate shape -
about the size youre after . But its ' raw ' - unvarnished at the moment .

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1QeJwXJMGhpEO-qaOBLdDzZ8IF_uhd1uHakI0y3oYyU1uFa-i)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp202/ruspren/P-47-Lt-Edwin-King-flak-caused-oil-leak-Italy-Jan45_zpsea4a5307.jpg)



Razorbacks actually ' teardropped ' at the upper frame line . NOT parrallel sided .

(http://www.meister-scale.com/Thunderbolt/Accessories/P47RazorBack-Canopy.jpg)

(http://spitfirespares.co.uk/Website%20Products%20326/P-47%20Canopy%201a.jpg)

 S?P

(http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/56g/rsj5.jpg)

(http://www.lonesentry.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/p-47-thunderbolt-greenhouse-and-bubble-canopies.jpg)

Unlike this one .  ??? Its also teardropped at the upper sill , the lowers parrallel for the runners .
Was a plastic 1/48 kit review , lambasting most p-47 kits , bar the one that matched the inaccurate drawings he used .
 VD~
while we're there , we'll have a fit about FRAMES , for some reason the manufacturers at this stage went to great lengths to REDUCE DRAG . Therefore 2 x 4 frames are generally innapropriate , they were darn near FLUSH . ;D

(http://guadalcanal.homestead.com/wallace/P47_Razor_back_Fusalage.jpg)



F8F

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Duggy009-2/F8F-Bearcat/XF8F-canopy-1.jpg)

Tempest

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnCYY7nAPp3IzYUeX-XzVi_xipx0PUB1HZS-AE1kAwWj6OG3yo)

you can see the frame at the windshield chopped square from the F8F , which is more bulbous at the front shut face .
Course the winshields are somewhat differant altogether .

Typhoon

(http://spitfirespares.co.uk/Website%20Products%20274/Canopy%201.jpg)

(http://spitfirespares.co.uk/Website%20Products%20274/Canopy%202.jpg)

(http://spitfirespares.co.uk/Website%20Products%20274/Canopy%203.jpg)

yours for 1499 pounds !  :P
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: M Spencer on October 08, 2014, 08:23:53 PM
They were refered to as ' Blown ' canopys ( bubble top ) . Somewhat bulbuous , so theyre a ' blown ' teardrop shape ,
for visability & streamlining . These sorta illustrate it .
(http://www.512thfightersquadron.com/images/WilliamACunninghamP-47_L3_O_at_Mourmelon-le-Grand.jpg)

you can see it narrow fowarrd to the front frame . ;)

(http://www.adamsplanes.com/photogallery/P-47N%20pictures/noseart_photo.jpg)

Glugg Glugg , fairly original presumeably . . .

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3mXspv2N7ig/Tv16_P4ttSI/AAAAAAAAC3I/dP4o0wwk_ZE/s1600/P9200012-u1.JPG)

started with these funny ' BLOWN ' Malcolm Hoods , for P-47s and Mk III Mustangs .  :P

(http://www.354thpmfg.com/gallery/WWL/image11.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/kunac/P51malcolmhoodrail880.jpg)
Title: Re: P47 Thunderbolt Canopy
Post by: Frank Wadle on October 09, 2014, 01:01:53 AM
WOW!
That is some very usefull information!
I will buy the mentioned SIG 9" and 11" WWII canopies
and some canopies from http://parkflyerplastics.com
(Al Rabes BBQ, Bearcat, Mustang etc....)
Then I'll for sure have one that fits well :-)

Thanks everybody for the help!
Especially for the parkflyerplastic link.
And also the picture references are wonderfull.
That might help a lot as I am also unsure what paintjob to do.

Thanks
Frank