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Offline Keith Spriggs

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 07:48:29 AM »
Mr Deep Pockets and Mr Poor Judgement, you know I think you would make one heck of a team................

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 08:47:19 AM »
The 1/2a guys, especially R/C, have lost almost all sources for reliable new 1/2a motors.  As the available supply goes down, prices go up.  I expect to see many more prices like this.

Think about.  If reliable glow stunt motors were no longer available, what do you think a NIB PA 61 would sell for?

I have a couple of throttled Pee Wee 020 motors NIB.  Bought them for $27.00 each about 3 years ago.  I imagine they would probably sell for near $100.00 each now.
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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 10:11:39 AM »
You guys missed the show.  Last night one guy bought at least 4 Cox products that ended over the course of 20 minutes or so.  The big one was a Peewee 020 for $150+.  The others went for quite a bit too.  From looking around a bit it was obvious the buyer has been going Cox crazy lately.  He'd spent an easy $1,000 in 2-3 days just on Cox stuff. 

It's not the flyers it's the collectors that are driving the prices up. 

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 11:11:04 AM »
It's also the retreads that are trying to catch up, thinking that all the old stuff is just about gone. I sell a good bit of C/L stuff on ebay and I never cease to be amazed what some of it sells for...and it's only gonna get better as the boomers retire with money in their pockets and plenty of time on their hands.

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 12:28:49 PM »
It's also the retreads that are trying to catch up, thinking that all the old stuff is just about gone. I sell a good bit of C/L stuff on ebay and I never cease to be amazed what some of it sells for...and it's only gonna get better as the boomers retire with money in their pockets and plenty of time on their hands.

Yes, it is.................. glad I got all I need for three lifetimes BEFORE the boom hits!  I ain't gonna be able to afford the ridiculous prices. LL~ LL~ LL~
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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 01:40:49 PM »
When no ones flies home built any more and ARFs are all there are to be had;  I wonder what a decent
, built up body stunt ship will bring?
If ARFs pass from the scene a home built will be worth ----??????? D>K

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 02:01:10 PM »
$260 isn't bad it's a BLACK TANK model, not just a run-of-the-mill red.

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 02:27:39 PM »
$260 isn't bad it's a BLACK TANK model, not just a run-of-the-mill red.




Actually its a second version and is the less desireable one to own. This was made when all of the good parts were gone and especially the red plastic parts which were used on the first generation models. A good TD010 in the jewelers case will command a real premium price. That is the red tank and the gold case. Everything else is not the same as those first generation high quality motors.
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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2007, 03:16:13 PM »
When no ones flies home built any more and ARFs are all there are to be had;  I wonder what a decent
, built up body stunt ship will bring?
If ARFs pass from the scene a home built will be worth ----??????? D>K

Hi Charlie,

Look out for that Mule Cart behind you!  Decent stunt ships RTF already crack into 4 figures......... no problem.  I understand a Yatsenko is up to $3200!
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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2007, 03:17:53 PM »

Actually its a second version and is the less desireable one to own. This was made when all of the good parts were gone and especially the red plastic parts which were used on the first generation models. A good TD010 in the jewelers case will command a real premium price. That is the red tank and the gold case. Everything else is not the same as those first generation high quality motors.
Dennis

I believe Paul was trying to be a little tongue in cheek this time. ;D
AFAIK, the black tank ones, like you say, are no where as good as the old red/gold ones.
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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2007, 03:30:26 PM »
Actually, I'd never seen a "black tank" one up until today.  It's rare to me.  Maybe a must-have for a collector.

However, reading the fine print on the card reveals a Colorado address, never a good sign in the Cox world.
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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2007, 05:12:02 PM »
There is a whole world out there. eBay is a world wide auction house. Do you think the guys buying cars on Barrett Jackson auctions make the same dough as your regular working man?

These guys aren't fools at all. They make a lot of money. A million bucks for a car is just what it costs. They go there to get the car, because that is where the car's are.

Just because I can't afford a P-51 Mustang doesn't mean the guys buying them for 2 million dollars are fools. They just have the dough to do it. My friend is into TV show direction, another real estate, they have P-51's (well one sold his and bought a Sabre).

Just think of the income of these auction winners as so high they don't even care how much that Tee Dee costs, they want it because it is just like the one they got on their 12th birthday from mom and dad. For a guy making 50K a month, or so, it isn't an issue. But the good feelings and memory fix is an important issue.

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2007, 07:01:37 AM »
Good point, but I just can't seem to wrap my brain around having that much "walking around" money.For those that have it, more power to 'em!

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2007, 07:39:13 AM »
 So, if I know where a NIB Cox .020 is I should buy it? How long would I have to hold on to it before selling it would pay off my mortgage? I DO know where there is one if anyone is interested.

Steve

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2007, 07:40:42 AM »
GEE!!!
I got two NIB Cox .010TD's this spring and have allready removed one from its box and flown it on the Micro Barnstormer.  I am keeping the second one for backup.

Bought one at a LHS that was going out of business for less that $44.  The second one I traded for.  Both were the Black units in card board boxes.  Inside the boxes were date stamps, one is 1990 and the other is 1993.

I have been told that the original Red and Gold engines would turn over 30,000 RPM but the Black and Silver ones will only turn a little over 25,000 RPM.

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 12:45:18 PM »
$3200 for a Yatsenko?  Isn't that an awful lot for a kit??  They are kits aren't they??

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2007, 03:04:05 PM »
They are RTF's.
That is Ready To Fly.
Yatsenko's are reticent to make kits as they are afraid of the builder not aligning them properly. Only a few were produced.
This info is from a close friend of the brothers, told to me years ago, not anyone from Texas.
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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2007, 03:07:51 PM »
They are kits aren't they??
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  SSSUUURRREEE !!!  They're "Kits"

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2007, 04:01:41 PM »
I'sn't the auto yur driving considered a kit ??? S?P y1 n~

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Re: P.T. Barnum was right
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2007, 04:59:55 PM »
There is a big difference between a Yatsenko model airplane and a new car. 

The car is ready to drive right out of the show room.  You have to first fill the fuel tank on the Yatsenko before it can be flown. 

So, It is NOT a "Ready To Fly" model.

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2007, 06:44:41 AM »
Can't argue with that..but you have to agree the new car doesn't have enough gas in it to complete the pattern y1 LL~ H^^

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