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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Terry Bolin on March 02, 2009, 05:08:53 AM

Title: P-40 or P-51
Post by: Terry Bolin on March 02, 2009, 05:08:53 AM
I am considering a P-40 (1st choice) or a P-51 kit from RSM. Both by Pat Johnston. Has anyone built these kits and would you post a picture please?
Do you have any dislikes about either kit or plane? Thanks! Terry
Title: Re: P-40 or P-51
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 02, 2009, 09:50:02 AM
I cant speak directly, not having built either of them, but I have talked to Pat a lot. Perhaps he could give you his insight on the designs and how he feels about them. He is pretty open about his designs.
Title: Re: P-40 or P-51
Post by: Terry Bolin on March 03, 2009, 11:21:42 AM
Mark, How would I contact Pat?
Thanks, T
Title: Re: P-40 or P-51
Post by: Mark Scarborough on March 03, 2009, 12:04:17 PM
You could try email at
 patsplans   at   yahoo dot com

or if your a member over at the  Brotherhood of the ring forum he frequents that as well.
I will let him know to watch for a message from you,,
hes a great guy!
Title: Re: P-40 or P-51
Post by: Pat Johnston on March 03, 2009, 12:47:53 PM
Terry,
Both planes are great flyers.  The main difference is that the RSM Mustang is larger by about 50 square inched than the RSM P-40.  Also the P-40 has my thicker airfoil while the P-51 was requested by Eric Rule to be built around the Charles Mackey "Lark" airfoil.  Both airfoils are good, but the thicker P-40 airfoil has a little more lifting potential, I believe.  That being said, It would take a top notch pilot to tell the difference when the planes are flown within normal flight envelopes.  Also as a new offering, I just finished a design for a new 40/46 size Mustang which is the same size as the P-40 (about 560 squares).  I have a laser to cut parts for short kits if desired.  Of course, I can supply plans to anything I have.  Feel free to get in touch at the E-mail Mark listed.
Pat Johnston
Design Staff
Skunk Works
Title: Re: P-40 or P-51
Post by: James Mills on March 03, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
Terry,

At one time I had a copy of Pat' P-40 plans (full body), beautiful set of plans.  I put them in the wrong van at one the St. Louis contest a couple of years ago HB~>.  I don't know that you could go wrong either way.

James
Title: Re: P-40 or P-51
Post by: Terry Bolin on March 03, 2009, 08:47:46 PM
Thanks guys for the info. I have decided to go with the p-40 since I want to use a Brodak 40 and The P-51 would need more than that to perform well. I have a Gift cert. from Christmas that is just burning me up!
Take care!