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Title: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Henry McClusky on December 06, 2018, 09:50:10 AM: Love the old Voodoo combat planes... they remind me of a P-38.

Then I thought, what about a mash-up of the two?

It could be a twin engine (19's?)... or a single engine (on a 35) or maybe built to allow one plane to fly either configuration.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Henry McClusky on December 06, 2018, 09:56:30 AM: I'm a bit late to the party it appears...

https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=10684
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: M Spencer on December 06, 2018, 06:15:22 PM: Something like this ? . :-\

(http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/data/thumbnails/26/combat_p-38.jpg)

http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/search.php?search_keywords=%22P-38%22&sessionid=1add115b6d9e2f5258b85061ca22840f
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Dan Berry on December 06, 2018, 06:33:19 PM: The Twin Terror. Maybe kitted by DeBolt?
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Tony Drago on December 06, 2018, 06:56:13 PM: Quote from: Dan Berry on December 06, 2018, 06:33:19 PM
The Twin Terror. Maybe kitted by DeBolt?

The Twin Terror was kitted by Consolidated Model Co. It did have a decent size wing. I believe 54ws and thick air foil for the day. But they tended to be a bit nose heavy.
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 07, 2018, 07:00:31 PM: Quote from: Henry McClusky on December 06, 2018, 09:56:30 AM
I'm a bit late to the party it appears...

https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=10684

I have full-sized plans for the Suarez P-38, purchased from MAN, IIRC. Two 15's would fly it, but it would need a lot of redesign to remove all the ugliness. IMHO. :( Steve
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Scott Richlen on December 07, 2018, 07:44:03 PM: Well, if you did 2 fifteens then you could fix the nose. It just doesn't look right.
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Henry McClusky on December 08, 2018, 06:07:08 AM: Quote from: Matt Spencer on December 06, 2018, 06:15:22 PM
Something like this ? . :-\ .............

Thanks for the link Matt. That site is a wealth of great plans. #^
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Thanks for the comments and commentary folks. As for the comments about the plane in the first photo being "ugly", I agree that it isn't scale. But that can be easily fixed using profiles the match the actual production P-38.

Being a stunt plane it appears the builder was going for a "form follows function" approach.
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Question: If the inboard engine fails on a CL dual engine plane, does the thrust of the outboard engine overcome the rudder and make the plane bank inward toward the flyer?
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Scott Richlen on December 08, 2018, 07:34:32 AM: Quote
Question: If the inboard engine fails on a CL dual engine plane, does the thrust of the outboard engine overcome the rudder and make the plane bank inward toward the flyer?

most times: Yup! and you better have your running shoes on! :(
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: john e. holliday on December 08, 2018, 09:58:56 AM: If the plane is set up right there is no problem if both engines run all the way through the pattern. On my Ringmaster twin, the Tigercat and B-25 the only thing I notice if the inboard quits first is less line pull. Now on the Tigercat that has throttle control you don't want to set down/land with outboard engine running unless you throttle back to idle. Also don't throttle up with the in board engine dead. D>K
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: JoeJust on December 08, 2018, 08:06:07 PM: This one was morphed from a 1/2A Royal kit. It flew very nicely with two LA .25's on board. The kit was way over engineered, and the plane would never fly the whole pattern, but if you can find one, the quality of the kit was very good, despite WAY TOO MANY PARTS!
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: M Spencer on December 08, 2018, 09:04:19 PM: (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KtwAAOSw~yRbnYE0/s-l1600.jpg)

36 in. Stirling ( Midwest ? ) one for two .10's .
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: M Spencer on December 08, 2018, 09:16:07 PM: (https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5530/9553577943_58e35d2598_b.jpg)

Some drivle on my 78 " span one . https://stunthanger.com/smf/gettin-all-amp'ed-up!/english-electric-lightning-p-38/msg303734/#msg303734
Once the 10 x 4s were on the OS 35s , in was ' in the groove ' Though overweight ( 2.25 Kilo ) and underdeveloped .
would do ends of stab fixed , mould a few thigs , on ' the next ' . Overall worthwhile for ' the learning curve .
Needs a big board & a few jigs . Counter clock wasnt the best idea yet .
o.k. on outer . Despite the Weight , it'd get a few manouvres , Down Wind , on the outer only .Depite the weight .
Shots when blue were first flights ! at Nats. As some birch had trashed my crate of planes ( see the patch ) .
Silver It'd been left outside for the rain gods ( at the next Nats . ) Worked , they got a fortnites . Leaves'd been curling up .

Lew Mc Farlands .Twin .19s .

(https://outerzone.co.uk/images/_thumbs/plans/6620.jpg)

And theres a ' Hutch ' profile here, S. H. for two 20 / 25s .
Title: Re: P-38 Voodoo Mash-up
Post by: Henry McClusky on December 10, 2018, 08:19:58 AM: Thanks for the replies, plans and photo's. Some really amazing builds, you folks never cease to amaze me.