OT nationals and pilots

[Chuck Feldman]

Hello,  I would like to know who won the nationals in 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953. 1954. Also what model they flew. Just seems to me that the record of the event is Unknown?

Thanks

Chuck

[EddyR]

Why do you think it is unknown? It has been covered many times on here and Pampa use to have it posted. Given a hour I can more than likely get the list together but I am going to let you do your own home work. It is not that hard.

[Brett Buck]

Hello,  I would like to know who won the nationals in 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953. 1954. Also what model they flew. Just seems to me that the record of the event is Unknown?

Thanks

Chuck

2009   Dave Fitzgerald   Thunder Gazer   PA 75   Muncie, IN
2008   Orestes Hernandez   Yatsenko Shark   Discovery Retro 60   Muncie, IN
2007   Orestes Hernandez   Yatsenko Shark   Discovery Retro 60   Muncie, IN
2006   Brett Buck   Infinity   RO-Jett 61   Muncie, IN
2005   Paul Walker   For Reals   OS 40 VF   Muncie IN
2004   Dave Fitzgerald   Star Gazer IV   PA 61   Muncie IN
2003   Dave Fitzgerald   Star Gazer IV   PA 61   Muncie IN
2002   Paul Walker   P-51 Miss America   Saito 56   Muncie IN
2001   Dave Fitzgerald   Star Gazer IV   PA 61   Muncie, IN
2000   Ted Fancher   Final Edition   PA 61   Muncie IN
1999   Dave Fitzgerald   Star Gazer III   PA 61   Muncie IN
1998   Paul Walker   Impact   OS 40 VF   Muncie IN
1997   Dave Fitzgerald   Star Gazer I   PA 61   Muncie IN
1996   Bob Baron   Pattern Master   Super Tigre 60   Muncie IN
1995   Ted Fancher   Great Expectation   OS 46 VF   Pasco WA
1994   Paul Walker   Impact   PA 40   Lubbock TX
1993   Paul Walker   Impact   OS 40 VF   Vincennes IN
1992   Paul Walker   Impact   OS 40 VF   Westover AFB MA
1991   Paul Walker   For Reals?   OS 40 VF   Vincennes IN
1990   Paul Walker   Impact   OS 40 VF   Vincennes IN
1989   Jim Casale   Spectron-Columbia   Super Tigre 60   Pasco WA
1988   Jim Casale   Spectron-Columbia   Super Tigre 60   Tidewater VA
1987   Paul Walker   Bad News IV   Super Tigre 60   Lincoln NE
1986   Ted Fancher   Citation V   Super Tigre 46   Lake Charles LA
1985   Jim Casale   Spectrum Mk III '85   Super Tigre 60   Westover AFB MA
1984   Paul Walker   Bad News I   OS 45 FSR   Reno NV
1983   Jim Casale   Spectrum Mk III   Super Tigre 60   Westover AFB MA
1982   Ted Fancher   Intimidation   Super Tigre 46   Lincoln NE
1981   Bill Werwage   USA-1   Super Tigre 46   Seguine TX
1980   Les McDonald   Stiletto 660   K&B 40   Wilmington OH
1979   Bob Gieseke   Gieseke Nobler   Fox 35   Lincoln NE
1978   Bob Whitely   Derringer   Super Tigre 46   Lake Charles LA
1977   Al Rabe   P-51 Mustang       Riverside CA
1976   Bob Hunt   Genesis Mk III   Super Tigre 46   Dayton OH
1975   Bob Gieseke   Gieseke Nobler   Fox 35   Lake Charles LA
1974   Bob Gieseke   Gieseke Nobler   Fox 35   Lake Charles LA
1973   Al Rabe   Sea fury   Super Tigre 60   Oshkosh WI
1972   Dennis Adamisin   Fouga Magister   OS Max-S 35   Glenview Il
1971   Bill Werwage   USA-1   Super Tigre 40   Glenview Il
1970   Keith Trostle   Focke-Wolf   OS Max 35   Glenview IL
1969   Bob Lampione   F-86 Sabre   Fox 35   Willow Grove PA
1968   Bob Gieseke   Gieseke Nobler   Fox 35   Olathe KS
1967   Barton Klapinski   Tempest   McCoy 40   Los Alamitos CA
1966   Bob Gieseke   Gieseke Nobler   Fox 35   Glenview Il
1965   Bob Gialdini   Eclipse   Veco 45   Willow Grove PA
1964   Jim Silhavy   Nobler   Fox 35   Dallas TX
1963   Bob Gialdini   Sting Ray   Veco 35   Los Alamitos CA
1962   Gerry Cipra   Nobler   Fox 35   Glenview Il
1961   Lew McFarland   Shark 45   Veco 45   Willow Grove PA
1960   Jim Silhavy   Nobler   Fox 35   Dallas TX
1959   Bill Werwage   Ares   Fox 35   Los Alamitos CA
1958   Arthur P. Pawloski   Atom   Fox 35   Glenview Il
1957   George M. Aldrich   Nobler   Fox 35   Willow Grove PA
1956   Bill Cummings         Dallas TX
1955   Bob Palmer   Thunderbird   Veco .35   Los Alamitos CA
1954   Hill Hutchins Jr.         Glenview IL
1953   Bob Elliott   Black Tiger      Willow Grove PA
1952   George M. Aldrich   Nobler   Fox 35   Las Alamitos CA
1951   Don "Buzz" Ferguson   Cheek Cowl Barnstormer   Fox 35   Dallas TX
1950   Lou Andrews   Trixter Barnstomer   Fox 35   Dallas TX
1949   W. Howard Thombs   Di-Doe Profile Bi-plane   O&R .29   Olathe KS
1948   Davey Slagle   Checkala Roma   Super Cyclone   Olathe KS
1947   Davey Slagle   Checkala Roma   Super Cyclone   Montcello MN
1946   Davey Slagle   Checkala Roma   Super Cyclone   Wichita KS

[Allen Brickhaus]

Thank you Ed and Brett.

Allen

[Trostle]

Just seems to me that the record of the event is Unknown?

Thanks

Chuck

For the record and in addition to what Brett posted above.  Wynn Paul is nearing the completion of his almost lifetime work to write a book on the history of Control Line Precision Aerobatics.  This will cover the beginning of control line activity and the evolution to our event as we know it now.  The book will cover each year of progress, the Nats results, World Championship results, our Team Trials, articles published in each year and on and on.  It will have many photographs, many not before published. 

I do not think Wynn has committed to a completion date, but hopefully it will be in the next year or so, then it will take a while to get it published.  I can assure that anyone who has any interest in CLPA will treasure this book.

The record is known and will be available to any who is interested.

For those who do not know, Wynn was a co-founder of PAMPA and was singularly responsible for getting the organization started, was the original editor of Stunt News for at least the first 10 years of the organization, wrote the stunt column in American Aircraft Modeler/American Modeler/Model Aviation for a over 10 years.  Wynn was a serious competitor, placing in the top 20 at the Nats 13 times, placing in the top 5 four times and was on the US team to the World Championships in '79, placing 10th.  Several of his designs were published.

Ostensibly, much of the continued interest in CL Stunt in this country can be attributed to PAMPA and PAMPA would not have been initiated without Wynn Paul.

[Dan McEntee]

  Well, I knew Davey Slagle won the first two years without having to look it up. I know nothing of anyone else other than Bob Elliott and of course George Aldrich. Those first three or four years it was really just s side show, and didn't Davey Slagle win one of those years with a whip powered airplane? A Jim Walker model?
  I have been watching for the announcement for orders for Wynn's book and eagerly await it. He has contacted me looking for information and unfortunately I haven't been able to help him out and wish I could have so I could say I helped!
   Type at you later,
    Dan McEntee

[Paul Smith]

I don't recall seeing anybody use the first four Nats winning models in OTS events, or picture or plans, either.

[Chuck Feldman]

  My question is answered. Thank you for the information. Brett your the man. Keith, as always you are spot on.

Best regards to all.

Chuck

[Trostle]

I don't recall seeing anybody use the first four Nats winning models in OTS events, or picture or plans, either.

Bill Netzeband built and flew a replica of Davie Slagle's Checkala Roma.  It carried the same color scheme as the originals.  Powered it with a Super Cyclone 65 on ignition.  Reportedly, it could do the OTS pattern.  He had it at the wind plagued 98 VSC.  That airplane is now in the AMA museum.  Stunt News gave a lot of coverage of Bill's endeavors around that time.

Plans for the Checkala Roma were published in Air Trails, April, 1947.

Keith

[riley wooten]

Brett,

Are these open winners or Walker Cup?
RW

[Mike Keville]

Are these open winners or Walker Cup?
RW

Apparently the Walker Cup, since a Senior (Werwage, '59) and a Junior (Cipra, '62) are shown....and of course Davey Slagle was a Junior.

In addition, I think the '54 Winner (C. Hill Hutchins) was a Senior.

[Trostle]

Well, let's see now ---

The complete list of the Walker Cup winners who were Juniors and Seniors.

Dennis Adamisin    Sr, 72
George Aldrich      Sr, 52
Gerry Cipra          Jr, 62
William Cummings  Sr, 56
Don Ferguson       Sr, 51
Hill Hutchins         Sr, 54
Art Pawloski         Sr, 58
Davis Slagle         Jr, 46, 47, 48
Bill Werwage         Sr, 59

[Mike Keville]

There you have it.  That's my man!  Thanx, Keith....

[Allen Brickhaus]

Watched a Davie Slagle's Checkala Roma fly on the hard surface circle in Belfast during the summer of 2007.  I think Maurice Doyle built and flew the model.

Allen

[Allen Brickhaus]

Maurice Doyle and his wife Helen were great hosts while we were in Belfast.

[Allen Brickhaus]

Here are the fellow who met me in Belfast Northern Ireland in 2007.

[Dennis Toth]

In the years that the Jr & Sr won the Walker cup who won Open?

Best,     DennisT

[Trostle]

In the years that the Jr & Sr won the Walker cup who won Open?

Best,     DennisT

Interesting question.  Interesting results --

National Stunt Champion                      Open Champion (Year won Walker Cup)
(Walker Cup and year)

Davis Slagle         Jr, 46                       C.H. Roof
Davis Slagle         Jr, 47                       Bob Tucker
Davis Slagle         Jr, 48                       Jim Saftig
Don Ferguson       Sr, 51                      Lou Andrews  (50)
George Aldrich      Sr, 52                      John Lenderman
Hill Hutchins         Sr, 54                      Don Still
William Cummings  Sr, 56                      George Aldrich  (57)
Art Pawloski         Sr, 58                      Bob Randall
Bill Werwage        Sr, 59                      Bob Palmer  (55)
Gerry Cipra          Jr, 62                       Lew McFarland  (61)
Dennis Adamisin    Sr, 72                      Al Rabe  (73,74)


Did somebody suggest that "that the record of the event is Unknown"?  Hmmm.  Thanks to Wynn Paul, the record has not been completely lost.

KT

[Tim Wescott]

Watched a Davie Slagle's Checkala Roma fly on the hard surface circle in Belfast during the summer of 2007.  I think Maurice Doyle built and flew the model.

Allen

That is a Nifty looking model.

[Dennis Toth]

Keith,
Great information, now the only thing to match up with these early winners was the pattern that they flew. We generally use 1952 as the cut over to the modern pattern but I understand that the "pattern" changed several times between 52 and 58. Is there a list of these pattern maneuvers used for the Nat's and the corresponding years?

Best,        DennisT

[Russell Shaffer]

Here you go, Tim.  You may have to join the forum to log into this, but it is interesting.  Chekala Roma plan-   http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=2292