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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Dave_Trible on July 10, 2019, 04:00:40 PM
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Reporting from the LPad as the typical afternoon thunderstorm approaches. The main road down here was blocked- don’t know why but clandestined my around the back way in. The grass circles are dry and freshly mowed today- ready to go. I understand the new wooden centers are a work in progress and may still have sticky paint on them when you fly. The NFFS trailer is in place (with a nifty set of stairs). Some of the old duct tape to patch the cracks from last year is still evident. NO CORN. Just weeds off 3 and 4. All for now.
Dave
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they are probly flying RC Big Birds all of controlline areas are in their overfly area
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Right now it’s raining so hard you can hardly see. Glad to be off the road before it hit.
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A header on circle two.
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Thanks for the update Dave!!!
Derek
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Very much looking forward to your excellent reporting again this year Dave, IMO your style here is the best format for those of us who aren't there. y1
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I’m not the only one here this morning. Kestus is burning in some practice.
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Good looking stairs, Dave.
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If you're coming to Muncie, you might want to be careful and not walk off the paved surfaces. It is so wet that you may never find your way back! :( :(
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Allen Goff told me this morning he got four inches of rain in that storm yesterday in about 45minites! I just took a walk down through the grass circles. Only the carrier circle has any standing water. The others are soft but should be fine for the weekend unless we another one of those. Some of the combat guys are out tuning them up.
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A few new additions to the museum.
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Allen Goff told me this morning he got four inches of rain in that storm yesterday in about 45minites! I just took a walk down through the grass circles. Only the carrier circle has any standing water. The others are soft but should be fine for the weekend unless we another one of those. Some of the combat guys are out tuning them up.
The circles themselves usually aren't an issue, they are elevated and drain - down to the parking areas. That usually turns into a mudhole in short order, particularly between the road to the TR circle and that corner.
Brett
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Yes it might be wise to leave the heavier vehicles on drier ground or gravel and just walk it in. One of the combat guys has a huge motor home. He was parked over on the gravel parking lot and just flying in the grass over there near the road. That thing would have required an 18 wheeler tow truck to pull it out.
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Gonna need a tracked vehicle to negotiate the grass circles...
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They were/are mowing the grass circles again now. I think it's just the getting to them that will be challenging. Might check into using golf carts if they can find a solid path in to carry stuff and folks back and forth. The combat guys seem to have gotten in on that end.
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We left Harlem, Ga at 3:00am. Driving through the north GA mountains currently. See you guys soon.
Orestes and Enrique are ahead of us. They were going through Atlanta around rush hour yesterday evening.
Derek
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Have a safe run bud! Yesterday we had good weather so we got some fuel burned. Joe And Colleen Gilbert we’re here for the evening session flying a new Cavalier a couple flights. Mark Weiss arrived as well as Rick Huff and they did some crack patching out on circle 4. I went over early to where they were doing the scale processing. Not much was happening yet but I took a few pics of some of the CL entries.
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We left Harlem, Ga at 3:00am. Driving through the north GA mountains currently. See you guys soon.
Orestes and Enrique are ahead of us. They were going through Atlanta around rush hour yesterday evening.
Derek
With Atlanta traffic being what it is, Orestes and Enrique might still be in Atlanta!
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Or JAX.
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We are headed to lunch but despite it being a little windy Gene Martine, Stan Powell and myself got some trimming flights in. Steve Millet and Don Cranfill had it going on two for a while. Jim Aron arrived. Good to see him after a long delayed return to the LPad. Scale is happening and word has it Hazel Sig is over there. Hazel is 97! Shirley Sheeks is also in attendance.
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Thank you so much Dave. You keep us up to date on what is happening and we appreciate it soo much.
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Jim I sure wish you would make this trip again......There are some flying down on the grass circles and are getting their vehicles in and out. Choosing you're ground carefully seems to be the trick. Saw someone entering the grounds pulling a pontoon boat.....seriously. Maybe next week...There are a couple pretty good lakes over by site four where they did the scale static judging. I haven't seen the pond out front of HQ overtop the road like it did a couple years ago-not even close. I haven't checked out the progress on the wooden centers but Doug and Kathleen are here. I'm sure Doug will gator-bite 'em if they aren't ready.
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ARF's in scale, and even foamies, ugh. D>K
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FYI. Just spent some time over in the grass area. The conditions have been exaggerated. It’s mostly dry and drivable. Quite a few people over here getting ready for Beginner and Intermediate tomorrow.
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We woke up to a light rain this morning. Beginner and Intermediate will be flown today and may be against a steady string of showers all morning. The radar shows a narrow band stretching across the whole state but rolling it's full length right over us like a garden hose. Extra shoes and socks will be required equipment in the grass.
There were a few out on the pad last night but the wind was 11-13 so good food, good friends and good wine beckoned.
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Dave, is it too late to enter the Nats Advanced?
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ARF's in scale, and even foamies, ugh. D>K
Fun Scale!
Chris...
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Dave, is it too late to enter the Nats Advanced?
I registered using my phone.
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Christ I believe you can enter up until about noon Monday-paying a small sum more than an early entry. If you do you will HAVE TOO be at the 180 building before 2:00 pm Monday with your airplane for appearance judging and the pilots meeting/ flight order draw.
Dave
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The skies smiled on the Beginners and Intermediate pilots. Around 9:00 the rain stopped so the events were completed. I'm sorry I got really nothing in the form of pictures or details since I was burning in some flights on a pretty busy LPad. I'm hoping someone who was down there will send any pics and details . Nice to see Bill Rich flying today. Japan has fielded a good team here-but I haven't Kaz as yet. Mr. Hiki and Mr. Masa were working on circle four.
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Back to the field late this afternoon as about everyone else was getting there for practice. A very nasty storm blew up and most ran to the pavilion. Seemed like 50-60 mph wind and hard blinding rain non-stop for 15-20 minutes. Two guys each trying to hold onto each airplane. Still pouring. Done for the day. Just looking at the latest on the hurricane headed our way......maybe this was a warmup. It looks like it's taken an even better aim at us than this morning.
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Here is a shot of me and Bob Maxwell from Beginner stunt. Somehow I pulled a second place out of my butt, and Bob got a third place.
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Bob Heywood and I are living the tough life here at NATS....
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How have the Muncie temps been? Super hot and humid here in SO MN the past couple days with humid and 90-ish degree temps forecast from now through next weekend.
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It was pretty warm and humid today! Was glad to retreat to A/C with some nice food and a cold beer! Rain came in this evening, a bit gusty (20-30 mph) but cleaned up for a nice evening.
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Christ I believe you can enter up until about noon Monday-paying a small sum more than an early entry. If you do you will HAVE TOO be at the 180 building before 2:00 pm Monday with your airplane for appearance judging and the pilots meeting/ flight order draw.
Dave
I got registered using my phone. See you guys at the 180 bldg. tomorrow.
Thanks.
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Thanks for all the "on the scene" reports. Excellent format.
Keep up the photos of the score boards, as possible. If Intermediate becomes available, looking forward to the results.
Peter
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Keep the reports coming gentlemen. Wish I could be there but, I've been grounded again after last Friday. Was told to not be out in the heat(only 90 degrees). Hate to think what our circle is going to be like with Dave at the NATS. D>K
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Bob Heywood and I are living the tough life here at NATS....
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Whose the guy in the Grumman shirt!
There are over 200 of us here at KSC for the Apollo/Lunar Module reunion.
Roger V.
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Update from Gerry.
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With threatening skies and heavy wind Classic/N30 is complete with only one airplane arriving prematurely with little damage. Joe Gilbert won Classic, Michael Schmitt N30. Now Old Time is beginning in the teeth of even more wind. Three or four chose to leave their airplanes in the car. The rest go on..
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Amazing that Paul got the Anteater back together. I saw the pic of the crash. Real talent, there. Wonder what the overall weight gain was?
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So the final scores for OldTime:
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With that complete I’d guess that’s about all the flying for today. This weather hasn’t changed and evening practice seems doubtful unless this all blows out before dark.
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What is Paul Walker flying? Did he repair the plane?
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Randy, weight gain on the Impact was just over an ounce.
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Even though OTS is an unofficial Nats event, it is discouraging to find participation is so light. We have more OTS activity at smaller local contests.
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Well it was not bad but six dropped out because of the wind leaving 7 flyers. Was blowing almost 20 mph as old time started.
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What is Paul Walker flying? Did he repair the plane?
This post was confusing. The mishap did not happen here but a couple weeks ago.....The airplane seems to be flying fine here.
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Amazing that Paul got the Anteater back together. I saw the pic of the crash. Real talent, there. Wonder what the overall weight gain was?
1 ounce!
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That's awesome, Paul. Hope it's going well for you.
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Today was nuts with the wind over at the Carrier circle! A mess of unscheduled landings, a couple pretty bad wrecks.
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Amazing that Paul got the Anteater back together. I saw the pic of the crash. Real talent, there. Wonder what the overall weight gain was?
Saw that pic as well. That repair job, especially in the time frame he had, blows my mind.
Gary
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What happened to Paul's plane and when?
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Amazing that Paul got the Anteater back together. I saw the pic of the crash.
And the rest of that story is...?
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Went from the left to the right in just over 6 days and received 18 appearance points at the Nat's. Happened just over two weeks ago now, or 11 days before leaving for the Nat's. Let's of late night sessions to get it done. Thank goodness for the "auto" clave to dry things..paint, newly molded parts, epoxy etc...
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Nice work Paul ..... to have only gained one ounce is remarkable ... good luck this week ....
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Having more fun today!
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Went from the left to the right in just over 6 days and received 18 appearance points at the Nat's. Happened just over two weeks ago now, or 11 days before leaving for the Nat's. Let's of late night sessions to get it done. Thank goodness for the "auto" clave to dry things..paint, newly molded parts, epoxy etc...
A crash? Whatever the cause it's an incredible recovery, good luck the rest of the way!
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Nice repair, Paul. Congratulations on the appearance points. Looks great, cool design.
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Chris...Went from the left to the right in just over 6 days and received 18 appearance points at the Nat's. Happened just over two weeks ago now, or 11 days before leaving for the Nat's. Let's of late night sessions to get it done. Thank goodness for the "auto" clave to dry things..paint, newly molded parts, epoxy etc...
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Well, Impact2019 is now on its 4th life.
It was on its 2nd on Wednesday when it quit going uphill on my first qualifying flight. By most measures, it should have crashed.
Today, on its 3rd life, on my first flight of Thursday, the leadout clips caught in the inside squares, and locked up. It was on the way to the ground and just in time it released and avoided the ground.
So it is now on its 4th life.
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Well, Impact2019 is now on its 4th life.
It was on its 2nd on Wednesday when it quit going uphill on my first qualifying flight. By most measures, it should have crashed.
Today, on its 3rd life, on my first flight of Thursday, the leadout clips caught in the inside squares, and locked up. It was on the way to the ground and just in time it released and avoided the ground.
So it is now on its 4th life.
Think its time to hang it on the wall lol
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Well, Impact2019 is now on its 4th life.
It was on its 2nd on Wednesday when it quit going uphill on my first qualifying flight. By most measures, it should have crashed.
Today, on its 3rd life, on my first flight of Thursday, the leadout clips caught in the inside squares, and locked up. It was on the way to the ground and just in time it released and avoided the ground.
So it is now on its 4th life.
Cats at least have nine lives Paul,,,,
How many does an Anteater, I mean Impact have
(Hey I didnt give it the nickname,,,)
Great perseverance Paul,, best of it on your second flight today
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Today, on its 3rd life, on my first flight of Thursday, the leadout clips caught in the inside squares, and locked up. It was on the way to the ground and just in time it released and avoided the ground.
So it is now on its 4th life.
And you didn't persevere and do the rest of your tricks!
I hope you've emptied out the bucket of bad luck that seems to be dumping on you! I'll keep my fingers crossed over here so you can concentrate on flying.
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Today, on its 3rd life, on my first flight of Thursday, the leadout clips caught in the inside squares, and locked up. It was on the way to the ground and just in time it released and avoided the ground.
So it is now on its 4th life.
Paul, how did the leadout clips get caught. You have staggered leadouts, right?
Dennis
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Sounds like a great "lessons learned on leadout positioning and clips" for discuss down in the At The Handle forum.
Best, DennisT
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A good time was had at Sportsman Goodyear, eventhough I had three DNF's....
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On the scene relayed from Gerry.
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Good luck to all today! It looks like any one of at least the top 10 could make it in to the finals for tomorrow. Should be a real shootout
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More on the scene.
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Well, Impact2019 is now on its 4th life.
It was on its 2nd on Wednesday when it quit going uphill on my first qualifying flight. By most measures, it should have crashed.
Today, on its 3rd life, on my first flight of Thursday, the leadout clips caught in the inside squares, and locked up. It was on the way to the ground and just in time it released and avoided the ground.
So it is now on its 4th life.
Amazing! The gremlins are obviously working a little OT here. I'd spray it with a can of Raid, wait 30 minutes, and try again. Don't know if Raid will kill gremlins, but it might make them lose enough interest in your plane that they leave you alone for a while. Lol!!
Seriously, don't let it get to you. You, of all people, know what to do. Just remain confident and go do it!
Gary
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So, no Friday or Saturday play by play ... ?
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Nothing on PAMPA either. By text I know the first round is done. Walker had to bail out, but plane ok. Oresties "looked" best. Derick may have hurt himself somehow in practice, no details. Waiting for next text, if still nothing here, I will post.
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Nothing on PAMPA either. By text I know the first round is done. Walker had to bail out, but plane ok. Oresties "looked" best. Derick may have hurt himself somehow in practice, no details. Waiting for next text, if still nothing here, I will post.
Thanks, Jim. Appreciate it!
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PAMPA site is up.
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Most of the first two rounds posted on the live scores. Looks like Paul recovered on his bail out on the first round and posted the high score of 569. everyone else is within a couple points of him
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Nothing on PAMPA either. By text I know the first round is done. Walker had to bail out, but plane ok. Oresties "looked" best. Derick may have hurt himself somehow in practice, no details. Waiting for next text, if still nothing here, I will post.
Derek removed a chunk of meat from his arm in the prop but got it wrapped up and went on. He had the cloud of hades blow in over him on his first flight. He took off in great conditions but a heavy, dark cloud band rolled over during his flight shifting a strong wind 180 degrees with the judges scrambling to get to the other side. Once he landed the cloud dispersed. A great job of navigating that at any rate.
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So, no Friday or Saturday play by play ... ?
Mike you noticed, huh? With the live scores going and Robert about all over with the U Tube going I felt they were doing OK. Honestly it was a BUSY week or two for me and I just didn't find the gumption...too many projects....like perhaps the 2022 Worlds..at Muncie! Besides flipping channels between here and the PAMPA scores site would be too much......
Dave
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I’ll just say I missed the play by play quite a bit. Scores are a nice feature but give zero flavor or context as to what’s happening (like Paul Walker and Bill Rich’s low first flight scores Thursday.) Having a defacto reporter “on the ground” was sorely missed for some of us who couldn’t be there.
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We'll try to do better next time.....we do have the Team Trials coming soon....
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We'll try to do better next time.....we do have the Team Trials coming soon....
Cool. And thanks for the time you’ve taken to post at the Nats, this year and in prior years. My previous post was meant as an observation, not a complaint.
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I really missed it too but I thoroughly understand. Maybe now that PAMPA will be focusing back on the sport we might be able to do things like maybe some webcams at Nats and trials.
Ken
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Dave, I too am one of the many who missed your live commentary. In fact it is my most anticipated form of Nats coverage. Chris's 'live scoring' is the perfect complement to your commentary. I kept clicking on Live Scoring and immediately scanning the threads for your 'live commentary'. Unfortunately this year, no joy. My Nats and flying days are over. Sure hope can find the time next year. You're just so damn good at it!
Phil
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Hi Phil! So long no see....well I can only thank everyone about their comments. I will try to keep the program going in the future. I kept looking at the phone and thinking about getting it going but to be honest, at least for yesterday, I was thinking I would leave early and leave it hanging in the middle of the broadcast. I have a daughter ready to give me my fourth grandchild at any moment and wanted to get home to be here for him coming into the world. (not yet but Liam will arrive soon). There were also a lot of short 'meetings' going on with various people about the Worlds, bringing some of the factions together and inquiring about electronic scoring etc., so I just let it slide this time. Seldom do you have most all the key people in the same place and time to work on stuff. I'd hope in the future to make more time for the broadcast. Phil get to a contest someplace so folks can catch up with you!
Dave
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Well Dave I'm amazed you did as well as you did with your plate so full. I kept up with the NATS News every day. Guess you are home okay and the grand child arrives safe and sound. At Church today after service there was a going away fellowship of one of our great ladies as she heads for Florida with her daughter and I got to hold my great grandson Jaxon today. D>K
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Thanks for your coverage again this year Dave, already looking forward to next year!