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Title: On the news tonight.
Post by: Ty Marcucci on November 30, 2015, 06:28:55 PM
 H^^
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Target on November 30, 2015, 08:12:50 PM
That's 100% ridiculous.
The $hit is going to hit the fan/prop blades, if you ask me.
The results are so predictable.

R,
Chris
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: RC Storick on November 30, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
This is exactly whats driving legislation  follow the money.
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: badbill on December 01, 2015, 10:34:27 AM
Here's a news report from yesterday. They aren't even near starting this, and my guess is they never will. To many rednecks with shotguns.

http://www.wfuv.org/content/amazon-offers-new-glimpse-what-its-drone-delivery-could-look

Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Motorman on December 01, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
What's bad about it?
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Dane Martin on December 01, 2015, 01:28:01 PM
I'd rather not be hit by a 20 lb drone carrying stuff to people. I don't know if you've seen people flying them... But not all of them are reliable. What if one is flying over head and a motor / esc goes out? Down they go. I think it's a safety hazard
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Matt Colan on December 01, 2015, 01:41:49 PM
Yep, it's official, starting today, within 30 minutes range, ( they guarantee a 30 minute delivery time) Amazon is now delivering stuff via quadracopters/gps guided drones. Can't wait to see how this works out. Of course it will be limited to areas with the "full fill ment centers". H^^ n~ n~ n~

Skeet shooting with prizes!
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Steve Fitton on December 01, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
Imagine all the free @#$% you could pick up off the ground if you lived near one of the drone centers!
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: RC Storick on December 01, 2015, 04:13:04 PM
Nothing a blanket wont take care of then you have a new toy.
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on December 01, 2015, 06:56:16 PM
I might just order something from Amazon if they promise to deliver by drone, and if they give me an exact time.  I think it would be amusing to watch.

Floyd
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Scott Hartford on December 01, 2015, 08:53:11 PM
Fishing net on a long pole....hmmmm..
 >:D
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Brett Buck on December 01, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
Yep, it's official, starting today, within 30 minutes range, ( they guarantee a 30 minute delivery time) Amazon is now delivering stuff via quadracopters/gps guided drones. Can't wait to see how this works out. Of course it will be limited to areas with the "full fill ment centers". H^^ n~ n~ n~

      About time to look into some balloons with kevlar threads attached.

     Brett
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Randy Cuberly on December 01, 2015, 10:08:13 PM
Actually, I don't have a problem with this kind of commercial use of "drones" if (a big if) it can be done relatively safely.  I can envision GPS control of drones that follow relatively safe patterns to deliver packages.  My GPS is certainly capable of taking me (in my truck) to someplace I've never been before and even account for route changes for road work etc.

I'm sure there will be mishaps and accidents but then, delivery trucks have those also, with likely a lot more damage than a 10 lb quad copter.

I do not in any way equate this to 10 year olds with $100.00 drones flying the things anywhere they want to with no supervision what-so-ever!  That's where the real problems lie!

Randy Cuberly
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 01, 2015, 11:22:36 PM
I've had my GPS try to send me down deadend streets far too many times to let me trust them. They are a handy thing to have, but you cannot trust them with your life...if you want to live a long life. Well, most of us already have lived a long life, but you know what I mean!  D>K Steve
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Steve Fitton on December 02, 2015, 06:06:19 AM
Are there any drones that can stay in the air for 30 minutes with a payload?  I thought 6-10 minutes was about the max for a typical drone.
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Paul Smith on December 02, 2015, 06:23:41 AM
I see this as a hoax aimed at selling drones to people. 

As mentioned many times, the cost, short range, and low payload are deal-breakers.

As far as drone defense, an on-board TV camera with real time telemetry would effectively prevent drone-jacking.

Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Motorman on December 02, 2015, 07:25:39 AM
I'm still waiting for the driver-less cars to hit the road.

MM
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Dane Martin on December 02, 2015, 08:45:25 AM
Are there any drones that can stay in the air for 30 minutes with a payload?  I thought 6-10 minutes was about the max for a typical drone.

For sure 30 min easy. My friend got into them (i made fun of him for days! Lol) and his is just out of the box stock. Its big and he carries a gopro camera. Gets 30 - 40 min no problem. Imagine a custom one with 12,000 mah packs. Super long flight times are much more do able, even for the average consumer.
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Mike Griffin on December 02, 2015, 09:58:31 AM
I can just see some of the Cajuns down here on da bayou shooting one of these things down and throwing it in the pot with some blue crabs. 
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Sean McEntee on December 02, 2015, 10:43:03 AM
I'm fine with it as long as they are completely autonomous, that is to say, enter coordinates and hit "send". 

Emergency procedures for several circumstances only involve killing the uplink, the idea being that the best chance to save the aircraft is to let it save itself.  Newcomers are scared to death of link loss, but in reality link loss profile is the safest mode of flight.

So as long as some putz isn't flying it somewhere, they can deliver to my house.
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Ken Burdick on December 02, 2015, 10:58:35 AM
Imagine how much worse it would be if they used control line!
 LL~
Title: Re: On the news tonight.
Post by: Fredvon4 on December 02, 2015, 12:34:05 PM
If you are fascinated by this technology (as I am) a little research and some critical thinking is in order.... I doubt we have a thing to fear or be too amazed about from a company like Amazon or FedEx or others using this delivery method.  My reading suggests that it is still years away from wide spread reality. And I got to believe they will do several trial areas very near fulfillment centers first.

Why this is interesting to me?   I live in the sticks of a mostly rural county and do a lot of on line buying. It took several years after 4G LTE was anywhere near me and I was stuck on dial up. This Post is being done on Verizon's wireless network....at about 1.2 Mbps up and 764 Kbps down. 40 miles away they can get FiOs with 50 Mbps + speeds. I can't wait for the day my connection is that freaky fast.

UPS, FedEx, USPS, and DHL trucks up and down my county road nearly every day of the week from a distribution center that is 65 miles away...Folks that is a LOT of on the road time and fuel used. Some day I hope commercial air delivery will come to my area and reduce those road miles and fuel costs

You have to assume any commercial venture will need lawyers and insurance under-writers examining every aspect for risk and compliance with the new DOT/ FAA regulations. They will also have a bit of education to the public, I am sure they do not want any of us shooting down their very expensive property and perhaps causing a unintended accident (shot down drone crashing on a crowded freeway as an example)

Most of the state of the art micro controllers and software is becoming very reliable as is all the new battery technology in the last few years. Everything about these UAS is scale-able from micro (fits in your hand) to very large, like Sean supports and flies (delivering heavy ordnance half a world away)

Hell if you search about early drones you will find Jim Walker providing aerial targets for the military in the 40s. The history from then to now and all the capabilities is illuminating to read about

The negative impacts to our hobby does not come from commercial use of DRONES.  We are waiting for the final (initial) impact from the yet to be released DOT/FAA regulation changes. Most likely to require us all to Register and get a personal government number ( above AMA) to attache to our craft