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Update on the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run , orders now
« on: November 15, 2017, 12:36:19 PM »
Hi All   I have decided to do this , so , the  OS  40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, I will start these  soon,  and I am taking orders  for them, Please let me know  what you would like
These are the same timing as the  stock OS  VF 40 , exception will be these will be much improved as the will be  AAC, true chrome and lighter than stock

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« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 12:56:49 PM by RandySmith »

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2017, 05:36:50 PM »
Do you mean piston and sleeve? With con rod? With wrist pin?

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2017, 05:45:39 PM »
I will take a set

Thanks
John Blanchard
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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2017, 06:27:10 PM »
I will take a set just to reconfirm
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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 12:17:29 PM »
Do you mean piston and sleeve? With con rod? With wrist pin?

Thanks Randy, Jerry

Hi Jerry    These will  be  piston and  sleeves , no rods  heads  pins  are included

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2017, 08:15:37 PM »
I will take a set just to reconfirm
Thanks Tom Weedman

Hi Tom   you have on order a  46VF   ABC on order which I have now in stock, did you want to  add  a  40 VF  AAC  PS ?

Randy

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2017, 08:38:40 PM »
I still want two.

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2017, 11:31:21 PM »
What would it take to get one of these into an LA 46 case?

The VF is a rear exhaust engine.  Nothing would line up with anything in the side exhaust LA case!

So I would guess the answer to your question would be a VF Case and crank etc.!

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2017, 03:22:56 AM »
Randy I will take a set for the VF 40. And let me know how much I owe you for the 46 VF set and will put it on my card
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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2017, 09:22:28 AM »
Randy,

Put me down for a set.

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2017, 09:33:38 AM »
What would it take to get one of these into an LA 46 case?

I do not know if that would be wise, you maybe would have to machine down the outside of the sleeve or the inside of the case, match up the port height, you will then have a smaller engine, you would need, or want to find a pin  with pads on the end, a better  solution would be to get a  true  ABC  from Brian,
The OS LA sleeve  is  very thin, if I did this and did not  get a sleeve piston set from Brian, I would use  a  46 P/S set instead of a 40

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2017, 10:01:21 AM »
What would it take to get one of these into an LA 46 case?

   How is that better than a stock 40VF?  You would have to use a side/rear header and a bunch of machining to at best accomplish nothing better than a stock engine, with an irrelevant reduction in the weight. An it not run the same as a VF- not likely better, very likely worse.

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2017, 11:07:47 AM »
What's a 40VF weigh?

   It weighs about 12 ounces with the venturi and spraybar, the same weight it was in 1990. And 91. And 92. And 93. And 98. And 05.  With the AAC it will be more like 10.5 or 11. This on an airplane that weighs *4 lbs*.

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2017, 12:43:37 PM »
They're both loop scavenged, it doesn't matter where the exhaust comes out.

It matters a lot if the openings (ports) in the sleeve don't match up even close with the openings in the case.

If you don't believe me just buy one and try it!   n~ n~

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2017, 06:43:29 PM »
I once put a Rossi C21 piston and sleeve into a Fox 19 and called it the Rossafox. I put a K&B P/L in a Fox 35 and called it the Fox 4011. I have port matching skills.  H^^

If the person making these is who I think it is I'd like to use it for something. Been combing the web a bit and can't find an OS VF 40.

In addition to the many currently rusting away in various sock drawers, and the one I sent to Phil Granderson that go lost in the mail:

   https://www.ebay.com/itm/model-airplane-engines-O-S-MAX-40-VF-ABC-NEVER-used-in-box-with-papers/272933796120?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

      I couldn't discourage you enough to not do it, but if you are going to put it in a different case, I would select a case for an otherwise useless engine like a 40FP, Fox 40 compact, etc.

     BTW, the biggest issue is not getting the engine, it's finding acceptable propellors. I am down to my last Bolly 11.75-4.25, which is the one you want.

   Brett

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2017, 08:23:09 PM »

     BTW, the biggest issue is not getting the engine, it's finding acceptable propellors. I am down to my last Bolly 11.75-4.25, which is the one you want.

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2017, 09:28:56 PM »
  "  BTW, the biggest issue is not getting the engine, it's finding acceptable propellors. I am down to my last Bolly 11.75-4.25, which is the one you want.

   Brett  "


Brett  it will not be an issue much longer, We are making the moulds  from 2 brand new Bollys  now,  so I will have them in stock  first of the year  or  late  DEC

Randy

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2017, 09:39:01 PM »

Brett  it will not be an issue much longer, We are making the moulds  from 2 brand new Bollys  now,  so I will have them in stock  first of the year  or  late  DEC

     Outstanding, this will make  it a turn-key operation again.

     Brett

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2017, 09:47:42 PM »

What’s wrong with using a APC 11.5x4?

    Nothing, per se - I qualified at the 1994 Nationals using the original APC 11.5-4 narrow blade version.  However, the canonical system is Paul Walker's and you can try any of the others using the same prop, including going all the way back to the 1st-generation high-rev systems.

     Brett

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2017, 09:40:21 PM »
I once put a Rossi C21 piston and sleeve into a Fox 19 and called it the Rossafox. I put a K&B P/L in a Fox 35 and called it the Fox 4011. I have port matching skills.  H^^

If the person making these is who I think it is I'd like to use it for something. Been combing the web a bit and can't find an OS VF 40.

I have done tons of this, its a lot of fun, and many times you make a better motor, but I do not think so  when the  46 LA  is the subject,  Putting things like  ST 60  piston sleeves in a  COMO 40, and homemade  56 parts into a ST 35 case all made for  Great stunt engines, I have  a  ST 60 that is a 75, a OS 35S that is a 46, a OS  FSR 40 that is now a  56, , and a  shiney case  FOX  36 that has a  ST 46 piston sleeve in it.     But if you insist on trying the LA 46, I would  go for a  VF 46  P/S  setup, as they are  BOTH the  same  outside diameter.  But haven't checked, but I think even the  Vf 46  would make the  LA a smaller  bore, and smaller motor

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2017, 03:30:22 PM »
I will take a set

Thanks
John Blanchard


Thanks  John   I have you down for  1  set

Regards
Randy

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2017, 07:21:26 PM »
I'm in for one set as well.


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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2017, 04:02:58 PM »
Strangely, I'm interested.
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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2017, 04:07:34 PM »
Randy I'm in also for #1
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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2017, 11:34:09 AM »
I'm in for one set as well.


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Hi Ted

OK  I have you down for a set

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2017, 11:35:04 AM »
Strangely, I'm interested.

Hi Randy  did you want to be on the list for  1 set?

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2017, 08:20:11 PM »
Randy,

Please put me down for one set.
I've been sitting on the (Electric) Fence with a 40VF sitting on the shelf.
Happy to hear about plans for pistons, props, pipes and planes in the works.


Thanks,

Damian

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2017, 09:50:42 AM »
Randy,

Please put me down for one set.
I've been sitting on the (Electric) Fence with a 40VF sitting on the shelf.
Happy to hear about plans for pistons, props, pipes and planes in the works.


Thanks,

Damian

Thanks Damian   I will add  1 set for you

Randy

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2017, 02:30:41 PM »
Randy,

Did you get me down for a set too?

Thanks, Jerry

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2017, 10:56:28 AM »
Randy,

Did you get me down for a set too?

Thanks, Jerry

Hi  Jerry   Yes  I have you down for  1  set

thanks
Randy

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Re: OK the OS 40 VF Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2017, 07:09:05 PM »
     Outstanding, this will make  it a turn-key operation again.

     Brett

Hi Brett  best thing is not only will make turn key for  VF40, but the  prop  will also work very well  on most all 40 pipe engines, 46 LA  40 LA  ST 51  OS  VF 46 , PA 51 61  and many other  engines

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UPDATE: ON the OS 40 VF AAC Piston Sleeve Run is on, orders now
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2017, 12:28:34 PM »
Hi All

The Run has started, it will take a while and I will let you know when they are ready to ship, These of course will be the  Lighter  and  much tougher  AAC versions  just as the  PA engines are .
Anyone wanting to be added to the list please contact me

Regards
Randy


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