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Offline Perry Rose

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Not your father's P-40.
« on: April 18, 2019, 02:37:15 PM »
Has anyone else modeled the P-40Q?
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 06:41:23 PM »
Quote from: Perry Rose on April 18, 2019, 02:37:15 PM
Has anyone else modeled the P-40Q?

This one took 14th at the 81 Nats.  Photographer could not afford color film.

49" span.  This used a variation of the Rabe Rudder Theme.

OS 25 Max.

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 06:44:59 PM »
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 09:09:54 PM »
    I'm thinking one of the New York guys did a P-40Q, maybe Bill Simons? Published in Flying Models??? Will check that out tomorrow. I'm headed to bed. Just watched the Blues come from 2 goals down to win game five 3-2!!!

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 09:12:33 PM »
  Just thought of it, I think Don Hutchenson did a P-40 in his profile Warbird series that can be built several ways, including the P-40Q
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 03:36:59 PM »
What a truly neat looking plane! And to be powered by a .25...How Special!

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2019, 05:12:30 AM »
So, Perry and Keith, how about a little more information on your respective P-40s?  Another profile is always welcome as they are usually quick to build and have a high fun to investment factor.  And I really like the idea of a 25 powered stunt ship up against the big guns!  Tell us more, please?
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2019, 05:50:00 AM »
Quote from: Scott Richlen on April 21, 2019, 05:12:30 AM
So, Perry and Keith, how about a little more information on your respective P-40s?  Another profile is always welcome as they are usually quick to build and have a high fun to investment factor.  And I really like the idea of a 25 powered stunt ship up against the big guns!  Tell us more, please?
Mine is closer to a .60 size. wing span is 58.5, sq.in. 638 and weighs 59.8 ounces. I won a sheeted foam wing at a contest raffle, donated by Tom Morris I believe. I ran across the Q plane by accident and figured it would be a good choice for the wing. The fuselage is built up similar to the Mo'Best and sheeted full length with 1/64 ply. The engine is an Evolution .52 r/c with a Jim Lee venturi and nva assembly.  Prop is a buzzed down RSM 12 x 5.5 now 11 x 5.5.  The originals, 3 were built, wern't needed for the war effort. No other paint scheme other than aluminum were used.
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2019, 09:29:54 AM »
Quote from: Perry Rose on April 21, 2019, 05:50:00 AM

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The originals, 3 were built, wern't needed for the war effort. No other paint scheme other than aluminum were used.


Well, this paint scheme jumped out of somewhere.
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2019, 11:37:26 AM »
And here is another:

From Aircam Aviation Series - No 21  Sharkmouth

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2019, 01:21:15 PM »
I notice on the three pictures above, the wing tips on the bottom picture are typical the P-40 rounded shape, while the others are squared off. Any info on that?
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2019, 02:31:45 PM »
Quote from: bill bischoff on April 21, 2019, 01:21:15 PM
I notice on the three pictures above, the wing tips on the bottom picture are typical the P-40 rounded shape, while the others are squared off. Any info on that?
The bottom one is an early Q -2 or a Q -1. They were made from existing P-40 models.
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 06:14:17 PM »
Mark Scarborough built a very nice P-40Q. I don't recall a lot about it, so thinking that was the one that was done-in by a tall dandelion at Delta Park many years ago. Mark, Randy or Pat may have pictures of it to post.  #^ Steve
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2019, 10:28:16 PM »
Don Hutchinson's Warbirds series of profile plans include the "Q" series of P-40s.

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2019, 11:15:10 AM »
That P40 Q series is a great looking plane. I wasn't familiar with it. Thanks for posting!
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2019, 10:41:12 AM »


      Here's a green box Nobler built as a P-40Q by club member Sandy Schmidt.

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2019, 01:06:52 PM »
Quote from: Dan McEntee on April 18, 2019, 09:09:54 PM
    I'm thinking one of the New York guys did a P-40Q, maybe Bill Simons? Published in Flying Models??? Will check that out tomorrow. I'm headed to bed. Just watched the Blues come from 2 goals down to win game five 3-2!!!

 LETS GO BLUES!!
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Bill Simons did "A Stunter with a 'P-40' flavor!" which was the title of the construction article.  Published in Flying Models, June 1972.  It was as much of a semi-scale P-40 as most other semi-scale models of anything from that era of pre Rabe influence.  Simons' P-40 was not a "Q" model as it did not have a bubble canopy.  The reality of the P-40 is that it lends itself to semi-scale appearance because of the large underslung radiator behind the spinner coupled with military markings and sharks teeth and an appropriatly shaped tail, you have a stunt ship that looks like a P-40.

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2019, 01:29:58 PM »
I suppose it wouldn't quite be kosher to take Charles Parrot's P-40 and modify it into a Q for classic?
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2019, 03:54:21 PM »
Here is another shot of the P-40Q from the 81 Nats.  This is from a photographer who could afford color film.

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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2019, 03:53:40 PM »
Quote from: Scott Richlen on April 25, 2019, 01:29:58 PM
I suppose it wouldn't quite be kosher to take Charles Parrot's P-40 and modify it into a Q for classic?

Again, there is NOTHING in the Classic rules that allows disqualification for ANYTHING (regarding the model). I would say the Parrot P-40 could be built as any form of P-40, simply because it MIGHT have been done that way back in the Summer of '69. There are some Classics that have silly wing asymmetry...fix it, it's legal. A lot have bigger inboard flaps than outboard...fix that, too. It really comes down to those authenticity (?) points that NOBODY USES!  y1 Steve
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2019, 06:14:15 PM »
Walt Pyron, who was known more for his P-39 did a P-40Q that would easily qualify for classic.  Tom Dixon may still carry the plans. I knew Walt when he lived in Redding Ca. He attended a few WAM contests back in the day as well as some early VSCs. Somewhere I have a copy of his P-40Q plans.  He was a great flier, finisher, builder. Flew FAST! but with great precision.
FWIW: Walt's P-39 was featured in Flying Models magazine in the 90's when Bob Hunt was writing articles and offering plans for a number of classic designs. Walt's P-39 is more scale like than the better known Bill Simons version and deserves more recognition.  8)
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Re: Not your father's P-40.
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2019, 09:35:44 AM »
The P40 has been a favorite of many.  The distinctive "shark mouth" is a draw.  Mine is electric, built from Pat Johnston plans.
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