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Title: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on January 20, 2008, 07:08:35 AM: I was given rubber powered FF model- does anyone recognize it? What design? Any other info welcomed. Before anyone asks questions- I'm not goig over to FF and I'm not planning to hookup lines or install a ROJETT 65. Thanks for your interest
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: Peter Hess on January 20, 2008, 07:20:02 AM: Hi, Lyle:
I am not sure about this, but it looks like a Gollywock. If that's what it is, and if it is in good shape, it is a very good flier. Just don't try to fly it at the C/L-R/C field in Lee.
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: tom hampshire on January 20, 2008, 07:44:28 AM: Hi Lyle - A close look reveals a cabin, albeit low, making it a Jabberwock instead of a Gollywock. Designed by Wally Simmers about post 1941 as a cousin to the gollywock, kitted by Midwest. Laser cut short kits still available. Earlier post is spot on, its not a schoolyard flyer. Anything less than a half mile square prarie is cause for concern. Google on Brooklyn Skyscrpers for maps of Barron field, Waywayanda NY, just south of Middletown. We are so lucky to have Andrew Barron and his sod farm, its the only FF game anywhere in the NE. Tom H.
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: Russell Shaffer on January 20, 2008, 09:05:45 AM: The dethermalizer is probably a clue to good performance.
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: Dan McEntee on January 20, 2008, 10:44:17 AM: No, it's not a Gollywock or Jabberwock. The rudder shape is all wrong and it has a flat center section on the wing. Looks more like a Dick Korda design but not his 1939 Wakefield winner. The flat center section of the wing is significant, and I'm guessing it's one of the early Scientific rubber models, or a pre-1939 Korda design. I wish I could see a better side view.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: gary tultz on January 20, 2008, 11:29:22 AM: I was going to say the "Small" Korda. Had some old mouse eaten plans from the 40s when Scientific made a lot of Rubber models. Rainman H^^
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on January 20, 2008, 04:33:37 PM: Posting another view in attached photo
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: Dan McEntee on January 20, 2008, 06:42:29 PM: Quote from: Lyle Spiegel on January 20, 2008, 04:33:37 PM
Posting another view in attached photo

The wing tip trailing edges are what is throwing me. The tail feathers and fuse shape look like Korda design. Might be a Scientific Korda Victory. I have one of those kits, and I'll have to digf it out and check the plan.
Some Keil Kraft sport rubber designs had wing shapes like this. But the tail shapes aren't right for a Keul Kraft Senator or similar model. Also, it has a free wheeling prop.
Gotta get busy and research this!
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: EddyR on January 20, 2008, 08:33:29 PM: Home brew and not flown much.There is no depression where the rubber bands went over the wing but the coveing is loose in other spots.Also the prop shape is too flat.Maybe I am wrong but I built and flew a lot of these with Norm Alderman the winner of the Plymouth Nats.
Ed
Title: Re: Not C/L- would like to find info about old FF design in photo
Post by: Lyle Spiegel on January 22, 2008, 05:43:54 AM: Some dimensions to help identify this design Tip to tip wing span is 41 inch. The center section measures 15 inch. The chord is 5 inch.