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Title: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Larry Wong on August 20, 2013, 02:45:50 PM
But it's still great flying

http://wimp.com/dancingairplane/ #^ #^ #^
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Duke.Johnson on August 20, 2013, 05:38:31 PM
My boys and I like to watch this on the web sometimes. We like watching the Heli's perform to music also.  We know a guy that is a DJ and a great heli pilot, a great show every time.
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Howard Rush on August 20, 2013, 06:14:15 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Larry Wong on August 20, 2013, 07:51:53 PM
Sounds like a NEW event !  Free style  Pattern ~^ ~^ ~^ ~^
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Dan McEntee on August 20, 2013, 09:22:24 PM
   I have seen similar videos of flights of these type of 3-D models, and they have light weight streamers on each wing tip. Makes a great affect and lets you really see the corners on pullouts and such. You might think that on fast aileron rolls, while going that slow, they might wrap around the tail or at least get caught up some way, but they never seem to. Some have reversable pitch props, and dive to the floor and stop inches from the floor and back straight up until they can pull out forward again. That's pretty cool! Wish I could do that with my Park Zone Champ!
   Type at you later,
    Dan McEntee
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Mike Keville on August 20, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Whoopee!  Another foam-and-electric "toy".  Whatever happened to REAL modeling?

Just sayin'...
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: john e. holliday on August 21, 2013, 08:08:09 AM
You forget todays generation is buy and destroy.   Why learn to build when they can buy ready to fly.   If only we had a CL  plane like that for indoors.   Well, now I think of it, we do but getting it out in vast numbers is holding it up with an affordable price.
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Jo Ann Keville on August 21, 2013, 08:08:25 AM
That was amazing. Very talented pilot. I am sure it is not easy to do. Lots of fun to watch. I would sure enjoy a contest like that. How enjoyable.  Thanks for sharing that one. H^^
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Matt Colan on August 21, 2013, 08:31:49 AM
That was excellent! Here's a couple other videos of foamies that I enjoy watching, and two completely different styles.

http://youtu.be/6HfNTL3uZ1U

http://youtu.be/rM6w77J_NRg

Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Mike Griffin on August 21, 2013, 08:48:12 AM
I guess I am just an old dinosaur but I have to echo Mike Keville's sentiments.  It is like playing a video game, there is no connection the the model where you can feel it and become one with it.  I have a couple of foamie toys I play with sometimes but it is what it is...remote

Mike
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Derek Barry on August 21, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
The guy with the 4D plane is awesome!

Derek
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: dennis lipsett on August 21, 2013, 03:22:24 PM
Whoopee!  Another foam-and-electric "toy".  Whatever happened to REAL modeling?

Just sayin'...


Your going to show us real flying skills in C/L to emulate that flying and believe me a Bi Slob isn't going to cut it. I've also seen too many people in C/L buy their rides, sold quite a few of them myself.
Mike, C/L is not the defining moment of model flying but part of the whole hobby. These people are good at what they do. accept it and move on.
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Duke.Johnson on August 21, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
I can't fly RC to long without getting bored.  But I do like watching that 3D and 4D stuff. 
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Mike Griffin on August 21, 2013, 09:23:10 PM
Maybe they are out there but I never met a 3D fixed wing flyer who built their own plane from scratch nor have I ever met anyone who built an RC helicopter from scratch.

Mike
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Matt Colan on August 21, 2013, 09:47:03 PM
Maybe they are out there but I never met a 3D fixed wing flyer who built their own plane from scratch nor have I ever met anyone who built an RC helicopter from scratch.

Mike

Hi Mike,

Check this website out. These are from what I've heard the best 3D giant scale kits. Lots of money, but might be something I'd like to try and build when I'm rich (hopefully) in the future.

http://carden-aircraft.com/
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: dennis lipsett on August 21, 2013, 09:57:02 PM
Maybe they are out there but I never met a 3D fixed wing flyer who built their own plane from scratch nor have I ever met anyone who built an RC helicopter from scratch.

Mike


Mike ,
I'm not taking a shot at you but with that remark I have to figure that you have lived in a sheltered world.
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: john e. holliday on August 22, 2013, 07:59:15 AM
I take it that Mike has not been to the NATS or any of the other specials meets for these aircraft.   They are out there. S?P
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Duke.Johnson on August 22, 2013, 08:14:19 AM
RC guys do scratch build planes and heli's, but I thinks it's much more rare than CL.  I have the templates for a RC 3D plane laid out on foan for a future project.  And I know a guy who even builds his own gyro boards for his quadcopters.  But again I think it's rare.  And we also have credit card modelers in CL, too. 
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Mike Griffin on August 22, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
OK let me clarify...I said I had "never met one but they may be out there", so from what you guys are telling me there are some RC 3D flyers and Heli flyers that take a set of plans and build these things from scratch.  That is great if they do.  When I had to leave here for 5 years because of Katrina, I joined an RC club in Georgia.  There were over 120 members in the club and only two of us flew Control Line..myself and Bob Dixon.   Of the other 118 members who flew RC helicopters, pattern ships and 3 D ships,  all of them were ARF's.  No one I knew in that club built ANY RC anythings from scratch.

Dennis I started flying CL and Free flight when I was 13 years old in 1960.  I have never been to te NATS and do not know if I will ever go to the NATS but sheltered is not a word I would use to describe how I lived my life or what my knowledge is on Model Planes....I took no offense to your comment but it was just wrong...

I still contend and will always contend that the Control Line Pilot who builds either from a kit or from a set of plans with a pile of balsa is light years ahead of your average ARF RC pilot.  Just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions...
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: dennis lipsett on August 22, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
OK let me clarify...I said I had "never met one but they may be out there", so from what you guys are telling me there are some RC 3D flyers and Heli flyers that take a set of plans and build these things from scratch.  That is great if they do.  When I had to leave here for 5 years because of Katrina, I joined an RC club in Georgia.  There were over 120 members in the club and only two of us flew Control Line..myself and Bob Dixon.   Of the other 118 members who flew RC helicopters, pattern ships and 3 D ships,  all of them were ARF's.  No one I knew in that club built ANY RC anythings from scratch.

Dennis I started flying CL and Free flight when I was 13 years old in 1960.  I have never been to The NATS and do not know if I will ever go to the NATS but sheltered is not a word I would use to describe how I lived my life or what my knowledge is on Model Planes....I took no offense to your comment but it was just wrong...

I still contend and will always contend that the Control Line Pilot who builds either from a kit or from a set of plans with a pile of balsa is light years ahead of your average ARF RC pilot.  Just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions...


I belonged to an R/C club that had the majority of the models built by the members. and to clarify your perception of arf in R/C buy an R/C helicopter and proceed to build it and then get back to me. Same with a good jet or large scale top gun model. These are not arfs in any way that you can imagine. and you would certainly balk at the cost and expertise required to get these models to competent levels of appearance and performance.. You keep mistaking the casual sunday flyer as the real R/C modeler just as you and others assume that those who don't build in C/L can't be real modellers. With this perception is it any wonder that C/L has an image problem in many places.
I really do wish that this sanctimonious attitude of having to build your model would die out as it is now and always will be counter productive to any continuance of this hobby in any meaningful manner.
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Mike Griffin on August 22, 2013, 04:55:08 PM
OK Dennis....you made your point and I made mine....I am not changing my mind and neither are you so lets just move on and enjoy what we do best....

Mike
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: john e. holliday on August 23, 2013, 08:06:30 AM
Way to go guys, lets get back to having fun.   When I was  a member of an RC club I was the go to guy for engine problems.   Also in some cases helping set up new planes at the field.   But, I did have a newbie teach me one thing.  If you are running muffler pressure with the stock muffler why put your finger over the venture of the throttle control!   Put finger over muffler out let and flip prop or hit it with the electric finger. H^^
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: dennis lipsett on August 23, 2013, 02:30:18 PM
I still contend and will always contend that the Control Line Pilot who builds either from a kit or from a set of plans with a pile of balsa is light years ahead of your average ARF RC pilot.  Just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions...


From where some people have their opinions they have a very monocular view of life.

dennis
Title: Re: Not C/L but its E-Flight Dancing
Post by: Vincent Judd on August 28, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
Maybe they are out there but I never met a 3D fixed wing flyer who built their own plane from scratch nor have I ever met anyone who built an RC helicopter from scratch.

Mike

I am a 3D fixed wing flyer and I build all my planes by scratch from either plans or short kits.  You're underestimating the skill of many R/C pilots, both in building and in flying.  As for building an RC helicopter from scratch, well, if you've ever looked at a 3D heli up close, you'd realize that it's made up of a million tiny pieces.  Putting one together is more complicated and time consuming than you could ever imagine.

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