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Online Larry Wong

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Motor mount wood
« on: January 05, 2016, 12:15:19 PM »
Has anyone used Camellia wood for motor mounts.                Camellia is also know as ‘Tsubaki’ in Japanese. Camellia is probably mainly known for producing beautiful flowers durian  winter to early spring, but Kendo practitioners recognize the Camellia as a source of great wood for Bokken.

The wood from the Camellia is know for it’s luxurious color and it’s fine grains which gives it a very smooth feel. Camellia Bokken can also be characterized by it being very hard while also being resilient, which makes it strong against impact and damage. The hardness of Camellia wood is comparable to that of Isu and Sunuke, making it very preferable for making Bokken.
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Online Gerald Arana

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Re: Motor mount wood
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2016, 12:37:00 PM »
Has anyone used for motor mounts?


Maple is the "Gold" standard. (AFALC) What is "Camellia wood"? I never heard of it. But then again I haven't heard of a lot of stuff....Just saying.  LL~ LL~ LL~  Jerry

Offline Tim Wescott

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Re: Motor mount wood
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 12:53:34 PM »
I went looking for engineering data on camellia wood, and didn't find anything.

Maple -- specifically "rock hard maple" or "sugar maple" -- is the "gold standard" because it has good crush resistance across the grain, and because it's tough -- you can hit it harder than other woods and it won't shatter.  I haven't seen this said, but it also seems to have pretty good resistance to splitting.

Here's a handbook that lists all the pertinent numbers for maple and other common woods: http://www.conradfp.com/pdf/ch4-Mechanical-Properties-of-Wood.pdf.

If I wanted to seriously use some wood other than maple, I'd make up a 1/2" x 3/8" by 4" stick of the stuff, and grab a scrap piece of motor mount the same size.  Then I'd do the following to each piece:

  • Try to indent it on the side grain with my fingernail or a plain old nail -- this should be a good gauge of the crush resistance
  • Put it in a good-quality, well-supported vise, and whack it with a hammer (do not do this with a cheapo vise).  If you don't trust your vise, put it on a concrete floor, supported at each end by nuts (as in "nuts & bolts", not walnuts), and whack the middle with a hammer.
  • Drill a hole through it crossways to clear a 4-40 bolt, put on a bolt & nut, and tighten the bejezus out of the thing.  Look at the amount of indentation

If after all that it seems as strong as maple, then build a plane and try it out.  If you want it crash tested, lend it to a beginner!
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Offline Phil Krankowski

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Re: Motor mount wood
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2016, 03:45:51 PM »
I'll leave this here even though camellia is not listed.

http://www.wood-database.com/

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Re: Motor mount wood
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2016, 04:36:00 PM »

Maple is the "Gold" standard. (AFALC) What is "Camellia wood"? I never heard of it. But then again I haven't heard of a lot of stuff....Just saying.  LL~ LL~ LL~  Jerry

My mom is an avid gardener, and they bought a house from an avid gardener who traveled in the far east.  So we had a camellia tree growing in the back (and may still, for all I know).  I didn't know it until just now, but a camellia bush is a tea bush!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia

I still have no clue as to the quality of the wood...
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Offline Akihiro Danjo

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Re: Motor mount wood
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2016, 07:22:22 PM »
Camellia, Tsubaki, is very hard wood but it will be very difficult to get it because there isn't usable (lumber-able) one in Japan any longer.

Aki

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Re: Motor mount wood
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 12:20:39 AM »
My mom is an avid gardener, and they bought a house from an avid gardener who traveled in the far east.  So we had a camellia tree growing in the back (and may still, for all I know).  I didn't know it until just now, but a camellia bush is a tea bush!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia

I still have no clue as to the quality of the wood...

I've got two in my yard, Tim. You're welcome to come and remove the bigger of the two, stump and all.  y1  I took down a Photinia or two from my yard. They grow quickly and have green/reddish leaves all year, redder in Winter and with maturity. I thought the wood was a nice pink and thought it would (see what I did there?) be neat to make a handle or something from. Alas, when it dried, it was no longer pink.  :(  Steve 
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Re: Motor mount wood
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 10:30:56 AM »
Camellia, Tsubaki, is very hard wood but it will be very difficult to get it because there isn't usable (lumber-able) one in Japan any longer.

Aki

Maybe I should grow a Camellia plantation in my back yard and ship the lumber east!
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