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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: Greg L Bahrman on September 24, 2006, 10:33:08 PM
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Need to wrap leadouts and make new landing gear. Tom Morris controls, 4 inch bellcrank, Tom Muggleton 40 fp. Adjustable leadouts, hollowed wing tips, laminated flaps (Carbon Mat and balsa), tip weight box, Monokote. I weighed it at 40 oz. But I think 42 oz. will be more realistic when it's finished. I will post new picture with weight when done.
y1 #^
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Is it a kit, or a recovered ARF? I like the colors!
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Looks really good Greg.
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Nice!
That is the prettiest Nobler I have seen in a while!
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Excellent glossy finish - monokote ? or clear auto paint ? Nice job - congrats !
Geno
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Monokote....First all kote for U/C I've done. Trim is done. It was kinda fun. But I still hate hinge pockets, trys a mans patience. Still working on gear. The one shown is just a piece of scrap to hold plane up while I work on it. The gear has been sent to Scott Riese to add some lightening holes and get a polish job along with the mufflers. Prop was put on for show and tell It's a BY & O. I don't think I'll use it to fly. It's an ARF that a friend started, he gave up and I took it over and finished it. I stripped all the original covering and re-did it. Added Tom Morris controls, 4 inch bellcrank, Muggleton OS 40 FP, cut wing tips off and added hollowed blocks with adjustable leadouts. I don't have anything to fly at this time so I thought I'd give this a try. Some of them seem to do a half way decent job thru the patttern. Made new laminated flaps and added a little extra area to the outboard wing flap. All for fun.
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Very Sweet Greg!!!!
Kit or Scratch built?
What kind of prop is that?
Tell and show us more................ y1
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Looks a lot better than mine ever did. Now contact Glen Lee and get some wheels that match the color. DOC Holliday
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SUPER!....The Landing gear is ready. It WILL be so kewl.
Great job. Give us some numbers ..Weight, Engine, Tank oz.....all of the good stuff. y1
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Finally done. Came out a little heavier than I thought. Isn't that always the way. It's ready to fly at 43 oz. (dry). Scott Dinger Hy-Flow Muffler 3/4 oz. I still have to add tip weight too. Polished components done by Scott Riese. I sent him rough junk and he returned jewelry. Looks even better in person. Thanks Scott. How does this compare to all the other Noblers out there weight wise ? (ARF, ARF).
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Really looks outstanding y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1 y1
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Hi Greg, your Nobler looks really cool. I hope it trims out well for you.
Makes me want to start on mine now but alas I've already got too many
"irons in the fire" **)
Cheers, Rob.
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It will be fine at the 43 oz trim it out and have fun.
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Very nice Greg!
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Hi Greg, I meant to mention before that the Tom Muggleton FP .40 should be AWESOME
in this aircraft. ;D ;D ;D
I saw one in a profile Sukhoi (Mark Batty's) win the Aussie Nats 2 years in a row!
It was really strong, ran in a constant 4 stroke and never missed a beat.
If you haven't flown with this engine before I think you will be really "pumped" at the results. n~ n~ n~
Cheers, Rob.
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Went to the field this morning and layed out my lines etc. all set to go. Before I take my plane out to the circle I want to make sure everything is ready, so I'll just start her up for a couple of quick blasts just to get things warmed up. No matter what I do it won't start. Now I got Scott Dinger (the muffler man) helping me and also Rudy. Changed the plug 3 times tried different batteries, opened the needle, closed the needle. I'm so tired and my arm is starting to ache from flipping so much. I finally made the decision to remove the motor and put the backup motor in. I removed the muffler and handed it to Rudy who says you dumb $hit. I know why it won't run.
Well now I recall exactly how this happened (no excuse). I was making these really cool copper gaskets when the wife pulls in the garage and says, "I know your busy so I stopped and got dinner on my way home from work, lets eat. I said just a second let me see if the screws will go thru this gasket, I'll just bolt it up and come back after dinner and finish it. (NOT).....Stupid is as stupid does
I ended up putting two flights in with the LA 46 using the Zinger Pro 11 x 4 prop. It actually flies better than I thought it would. Still needs some trimming but it seems to be in the ballpark or should I say saveable. The main problem is that with the LA 46 and a .295 dia. venturi, I ran out of fuel at 4 1/2 to 5 minutes or sooner. Not enough fuel to do a complete pattern. It has a 4 oz. tank and as most of you know even that had to be slid in with a big hammer and there is no more room for a larger tank. It also seems to be a little on the nose heavy side as the corners are way late and not sharp. Moved the handle spacing from 3 in. to 3 3/4 in. and made a big difference in the corner but still not quick enough. Controls are smooth and there is plenty of travel. So I removed the LA 46 and replaced it with the Muggleton OS 40 FP. It has enough power to do the job on just 3 1/2 ounces, anyway thats what Scott Dingers Nobler is doing with the same setup. The other benefit is that the OS 40 FP is about 1 1/2 ounces lighter than the LA 46. So maybe I'll get the corner I'm looking for eventually. I didn't get a chance to try it with the OS yet, but maybe tomorrow. I'm going to take it to the contest tomorrow and put in a couple of practice flights before sign-up....Well we'll see ?.
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Would make the exhaust a little hard to get out ;D
I want a set of that landing gear...
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I think we have all been there and done that. I think you will be very happy with the Nobler. May have to build me a sixth one. I discovered that not only do have five different sets of plans for it, but, there is a Gieske Nobler and a Green Box kit in the dungeon. DOC Holliday