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General control line discussion => Open Forum => Topic started by: James Holford on February 25, 2018, 08:54:19 AM
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I know its been said and discussed before. But i dont remember.
Who makes a control system thats better than the stock system for the Nobler ARF thats reasonably priced?
I dont trust the the stuff that came with the arf.
Thanks
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Jamie, years ago when I bought my Nobler ARF, I replaced it with a complete Tom Morris system. At that time Tom made control systems for most of the more popular stunters. I dont know if Tom still makes them or not. You can buy the components for a system from several places. Eric Rule at RSM has all of the components to replace the Chinese system as well. When you start getting into CF push rods, Ball links, Titanium or SS push rod ends, CF bellcranks etc, the price does escalate for those quality components. If you are looking for a control system that is specifically made for the Nobler, I would call Tom Morris. He made mine. I think I paid around $35.00 for it back then.
Mike
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James...If Tom Morris is out of commission... I got one of his stock TF Nobler ARF complete systems...very nicely constructed but a tad pricey at $49
I am pretty sure I am never going the time to build the TF Nobler... too many better ARfs ahead of it
Check with Tom First... I can keep this for my son in the future...BUT if he is slowing down and not able to set you up I would be happy to let you have this setup...... IMO seem a shame to put this nice system in what I consider a horrible arf........On the other hand... if dorked the whole system is not that hard to transfer to any new build
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James...If Tom Morris is out of commission... I got one of his stock TF Nobler ARF complete systems...very nicely constructed but a tad pricey at $49
I am pretty sure I am never going the time to build the TF Nobler... too many better ARfs ahead of it
Check with Tom First... I can keep this for my son in the future...BUT if he is slowing down and not able to set you up I would be happy to let you have this setup...... IMO seem a shame to put this nice system in what I consider a horrible arf........On the other hand... if dorked the whole system is not that hard to transfer to any new build
Very kind offer. I will check with him first.
I already beefed up the nose with the needed mods. I just dont like the system it came with.
Ill let ya know when i find out.
Thanks again.
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Tom is still in business. I just bought an Airplane from him. ctmorris@cableone.com In his price sheet the price for a complete setup ranges $40 to $46 +shiping.
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Smart Move. I am regretting using the crap that came with the kit. I didn't want to waste money on a ship that I could not use in competition. DUMB The clevises that come with the kit have one and only one function - to get you to reorder a replacement kit for the one that just crashed. If you use them at all, solder them in place as soon as you get it trimmed. Mine stripped on the 2nd flight. Stunt planes do not behave well when you only have flaps to control them! Thanks to it being a trim flight with only enough fuel to do a few maneuvers I was able to get it down in one piece.
If I had it to do over I would have bushed the bellcrank and flap horns and soldered the pushrods at that point like we did it in the old days. (Digging into it through the canopy is not as easy as they would lead you to believe in the instructions) Put a really good nylon clevis on the tail horn and make a hatch to do your adjusting there.
OR - Put in one of Tom's systems. Either way you are left with a cowl that is a different color from the rest of the plane.
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If you're going to go to the effort to rip into an ARF and replace the control system, why not just build a whole plane? It seems that you could build a good solid profile with the effort that you'd put into bashing the ARF, and it may well fly better.
Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread, but I've really never understood this part.
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Smart Move. I am regretting using the crap that came with the kit. I didn't want to waste money on a ship that I could not use in competition. DUMB The clevises that come with the kit have one and only one function - to get you to reorder a replacement kit for the one that just crashed. If you use them at all, solder them in place as soon as you get it trimmed. Mine stripped on the 2nd flight. \
The parts supplied with the ARF are far and away the worst components I have ever seen supplied as a consumer product. A local flier found that the pushrod hole in the bellcrank was pounded out to about 1/4" diameter - after *3 flights*. I have no idea what grade of aluminum that was, zinc would have been preferable.
In any case, the stock parts are throwaway items. And in case anyone doesn't already know - *do not use RC clevises of any type on the flap or elevator of a stunt plane*. No matter how tough they look, the WILL eventually fail, as many people who thought otherwise have found.
Brett
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Who makes a control system thats better than the stock system for the Nobler ARF thats reasonably priced?
You do, roll your own..