Newcomer's impression

[James_Mynes]

I've only been browsing around Stunt Hangar for a few months, and I find tons of good information and helpful comments to my questions. As far as I know, I've only met two of the members in the flesh, that being many years ago. Therefore, it is safe to say that I have never met the vast majority of you people. On the other hand, many of you know each other very well, having met, flown, competed, and jawed with each other for many years. I don't presume to know all of the facets of your relationships, the history you might have with one another, or your underlying outlooks on life.
In this short time that I've been involved on Stunt Hangar I've noticed that conflict and hurt feelings get lots of comments and replies, whereas some of my 'newbie coming back to control line' questions get very little attention. Now, I appreciate the help I've received, but it seems like a whole lot of energy goes into the "He hurt my feelings" posts and the "My U-Reely is bigger than your U-Reely" discussions as compared to discussing things that might actually be helpful to someone.
There are many 'Boards' on the list, all of them seem to be specialized for some area of interest, Rules changes, Debate, Old Time Stunt, etc. etc. These are pretty cool, because I can troll through them and find wisdom in a particular area that might be vexing me at the moment. Perhaps the moderators could throw a new Board in for all the Hurt Feelings threads that aren't really helping the hobby. That way those of us who don't care to hear it can skip right by that part.

[Hoss Cain]

Hello Mr.Jim:

Yes, this forum is very different from the super-controlled forums of RC and others. I am a newcomer as having been here only a few years and not a real CL fellow as most of these folks are. I was big/only CL & FF up to about 1970, slacked off until 1980+/-, and do a tad bit for fun now and then. I actually get a bit of fun with the arguments now and then. The now-gone AMA forum was from very first a total dictatorship and AMA management did NOTHING to change it. The RC Universe is almost the same. I don't do any of the others as the dictatorships are mostly a buddy buddy set-up. Here there is definitely more consideration for the person to express opinion.
Therefore just hang in here. There is no place that I have been that can provide the true CL factuals as well and as much as Stunt Hanger. Certainly there are some jabs, but they fade. IMO when folks are allowed to post their own thoughts, argue a bit and then carry-on, well there is much better information passed around.
Once again, in our real world we get taken apart almost daily. In my opinion what freedoms we do have are mostly found here in Stunt Hanger. So HANG ON! 

[Mark Scarborough]

Jim,
one of the really key elements of this forum, is the ability to search past posts,,

there is a search feature,,
one of the problems that arises often, is that many people have answered the questions you may ask before,, generally several times,, so often there is not much response,, however,, usually a search will turn up a ton of answers ,,

welcome,,
and yes there are some heated debates,, but by and large there is a lot of helpfull people on here,, its about picking which ones to listen to which becomes important

[Tim Wescott]

welcome,,
and yes there are some heated debates,, but by and large there is a lot of helpfull people on here,, its about picking which ones to listen to which becomes important

Always listen to Mark.  Except when he's wrong.  Or disagreeing with me.  Unless he's disagreeing with me because I'm wrong, in which case you should listen to Mark.

[RC Storick]

If you have a specific question ask it and it will get answered. As far as another board there is enough here now.

[Mike Griffin]

Jim you make a valid point but just ignore the BS and pull what you need from the forums.  There is a TON of good information on here from a lot of guys who know what they are talking about.  Just sift through it , take what you want, and take my advice and do not engage in the hurt feelings forum.....

Mike

[Will Hinton]

Hey Jim, you made my day with your "My ureely is bigger than your ureely" comment!!!  I absolutely LOVE that!  It embodies the total spirit of many disputes on any and all forums.  Wish I'd said that, but the guys are right, please keep probing and searching for the answers you need and don't forget to share your own insights on problems presented here. 
This is the "gathering place" of stunt today and well worth the time spent here.  Fly safe, have fun!
Will

[Mike Griffin]

Will the Ureely comment made me bust out laughing too...that was a good one.....bahahahhahahahahahahahah

[proparc]

In this short time that I've been involved on Stunt Hangar I've noticed that conflict and hurt feelings get lots of comments and replies, whereas some of my 'newbie coming back to control line' questions get very little attention.

If your patient and hang in there, you will receive your fair share of abuse-I guarantee it!!

Unlike the large more loose-knit RC groups, CL stunt is a relatively small, tight knit community of VERY dedicated modelers. We are basically like a group of relatives who argue with one another all the time but, are still very much related by blood LOL. It is safe to say that, any stunt flyer anywhere in the world ,would welcome another stunt into his home no matter where he was from.

There is no group of people I trust more-NONE!!!

[Bill Little]

Hi Jim,

Let me tell you about my "introduction" to Stunthanger.Com!  On the night of the first day which Sparky had created this site, he called me and said, "go to so and so and register.  You are the Moderator!"  LOL!!  Well I did and I have been here ever since.  I have been/still am a moderator on other sites, so I had an idea of what my duties are.

I have been called out for my "character", "friendship", etc., etc., and all by people who only know me through here.  I often tell anyone who is really hot to "contact a moderator" so that it doesn't get on the board and show a lot of dirty laundry.  I can then get both sides of the story and help the people involved to hopefully come to a amiable solution.  I was called out on this last week by a member here who is well known for his "opinion".  This is all well and good.  I cannot take it to heart and often the request for "proof or instances" is met with a vague "no response". 

THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEMBERS WANT TO HELP OTHERS.  Sure, anyone who competes for real will have some ego.  But underneath they have all been "Beginners" and can, and will, do all they can to help you achieve success.  Overlook the "bad" posts.  Testosterone and anger can get temporarily out of hand.

Welcome aboard!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

[Mike Lauerman]

 y1I especially like the option at the top, "Show new replies to your post".  I hadn't seen that at first, probably looking like I ignored fellows that answered a query that I'd written...

The search feature is your friend. Glad hand him.

"You won't regret it."  (-Mike Damone, 'Fast Times at Ridgetime High')

[James_Mynes]

Bill, Randy,
The old adage says that no good deed ever goes unpunished. So no matter how good your intentions, somebody is going to gripe about it.
It reminds me of the guy who suffered a heart attack. The EMT's performed CPR and he was successfully resuscitated. After his dicharge from the hospital he gave the rescue squad grief because he suffered a broken rib due to their efforts at saving his life.
Oh, and I use the search function. It's helpful, but sometimes my choice of search terms are not so good.
I also recently discovered the "New replies" link. An invaluable tool.
Thanks, Garf, I'll check that other forum. I wasn't aware of it.

[Kim Mortimore]

I just did a search on "wanker" in this and another forum.  I find no instance of my calling you a wanker on this forum, and only an oblique mention of your proclivity on the other.  Ever helpful to the newcomer, I did look up the Urdu translation for wanker (  احمق).

Larry, Howard,
Is this issue being put to a vote?

..... You mentioned that questions do not get answered. I think they do but here is one of the BIG problems with many new ones who ask questions. They ask and then do not reply. I have this happen to me many times. I answer a question and never hear from the guy who asked it. I check his name and see he has asked a question on another part of the forum and then he goes quite. If a person does that he will not get respect from those that are trying to help...... 
EddyR

Eddy,
Are you referring to a thank-you post by the questioner, or an "I'll give your idea a try" type post?  I'm not sure about the expected etiquette when it comes to questioner replies.  Maybe this is a question for the moderators.   

All,
When I think back to first starting to participate in forums, much of the enjoyment came from the process of posting questions and getting replies from more experienced modelers, in addition to the information itself.  The Search function is fine, but the question and answer process gave a sense of belonging to the stunt community, which was very cool, and might be even more so for someone who doesn't live near other stunt fliers.  I can see how getting little in the way of response might be discouraging to a newbie/retread.

Jim,
How about reposting a list of your newbie questions in a single message and giving the gentlemen (and Stunt Hangar members too  ) a second chance to provide you the info you need?

[55chevr]

I have personally received a tremendous amount of information and I wouldn't be where I am without this forum.   I might be just lucky but it has been all good.   

Joe

[Kim Mortimore]

I have personally received a tremendous amount of information and I wouldn't be where I am without this forum.   I might be just lucky but it has been all good.  
Joe

Joe,
Did you receive a nice dose of encouragement along with the information from people being willing to take time to answer your questions?  That's always been my experience.  

If I have to explain it to you look at this thread
http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=30971.msg303369#msg303369 (topic cardboard)
One line questions and then he will not explain what he wants

Uh, yes, Ed, you kinda do "have to explain it to me", since your original post didn't say that you were talking about an unanswered request for more information.  If you're going to complain about poor communication, it's best if your communication isn't poor too.  I like Howard's reply #2 in the cardboard thread you referenced above.  I realize this ain't English class, but posts do have to communicate the info needed.  From a common sense standpoint, after reading the initial post in the cardboard thread, I frankly wouldn't have held out much hope for anything.  

[john e. holliday]

To all,  remember the only dumb question is the one that is not asked.   Welcome to the forum site to all the newbies.  I can't remember who sent me the info about this site.   At the time there was another fellow that was trying to get one set up for all of control line flying.  Was going great until someone got in and hacked his provider or either his site.   Another forum was discontinued because of the thought of a law suit.   But, everyone has an opinion and I think it was a gentleman by the name of Larry Cunningham that stated, we have a right to agree to disagree.  And I want to thank all our administrators here for keeping me in line at times.

[Will Hinton]

My Fox 15 is bigger than YOUR Fox 15!

[Tim Wescott]

Are you referring to a thank-you post by the questioner, or an "I'll give your idea a try" type post?  I'm not sure about the expected etiquette when it comes to questioner replies.  Maybe this is a question for the moderators.   

Or perhaps a lack of response when someone asks for clarification on a question, or more information.

"Thanks, I'll try that" is simple politeness -- the resounding silence that sometimes happens when you give advise leaves you not knowing if the original poster even bothered to read the replies, much less appreciates the effort you took.

[Brett Buck]

Larry:

I'm very upset that I did not get a parenthetical note after my name in your list above. Given the chance to compete in it, I would also have cheated in the Fox 15 Hurl...  

   The Commission has taken as a policy not to punish or acknowledge predicted crimes, even if they are this predictable. Rest assured, should you show up and choose to compete, you will be under special scrutiny. We have learned the hard way the F2B World Champions are not to be left to their own devices when it comes to the Hurl. Same with Walker and Burger, should they choose to compete.

    As a point of fact, the only enforcement actions taken by The Commission since last year's hurl are the lifetime ban for Mr. Eric Viglione, for failing to attend last year's *mandatory* Hurl, with willful disregard:

http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=28596.msg276570#msg276570



   Brett Buck
   Deputy Commissioner (self-appointed)

[James_Mynes]

I have a couple of Fox .15s. What are the rules to the "Hurl", and what is the current record? I've been wanting to build a trebuchet, this might be a good excuse.

[RC Storick]

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