New Year Resolution

[Brent Rogillio]

My goal for the New Year is to fly the whole pampa pattern by May. All I got left is outside squares. This has been a challenge for me flying stunt and crashing my share of airplanes. I love this hobby and the people I meet. Let us be the light that shines and share to others what God has blessed us with this hobby.Happy New Year and God Bless.

[Jim Carter]

L.O.L.!!  My goal for 2016 is to NOT crash all year long!!  Whoooops, I forgot .... I went out with the guys for our New Years Day first flights of the year ..... Yep .... so much for that resolution!!   

[Tim Wescott]

Hey Brent.
If you're doing every thing else, outside squares should be easy. Just remember to start high: for some reason the typical beginner flies lower when they're nervous, instead of higher.

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[john e. holliday]

I too quit making new years resolutions years ago because I could never keep them..   

[Larry Renger]

You might try entering outside squares from inverted flight just to get the feel of them. The bottom is then established, and the speed will be lower when you pitch onto the down leg.

[Perry Rose]

I can help. We can set something up, my schedule is erratic with the house buying and all.

[Doug Moon]

Hello Brent,

I am not sure if you need some tips on learning this one. But I thought I would throw out a couple if that is ok.

The outside square can be a little challenging to say the least.  The start is the important part when learning.  Go ahead and fly plane up 60 degrees or so at least 1/2 a lap prior to the entry.  Two things will happen, first you will bleed off a little speed, and second you are only turning 90 degrees into that first corner.  If you fly up to the entry point late and you are not level at the first turn you are actually having to turn more than 90 degrees to get it going straight down. Here is the hard part for your brain to overcome at first, MAKE the plane go STRAIGHT DOWN.  Many new fliers will under turn the entry a little and that leg will not be straight down. This makes the bottom particularly hard because you have to turn more than 90 degrees at the bottom and it is hard on the model as well as you the flier.

Maneuver placement helps as well.  You want to be facing the maneuver.  I see many fliers who face downwind and then fly the maneuver off to their left side biasing into the winds a little.  If you want to fly it off to the left of the wind great, but face that way.  As I approach entry I face dead down wind. The model is already at 45 degrees, or as close as I can get it there. As it flys in front of me and just past dead downwind I enter straight down. Then across the bottom to just past dead downwind again and back up and over.  I try my best to place the center of the maneuver dead down wind and let the winds on either side help keep things nice and even as far as size and speed go. 

I know you didn’t ask for this and I am sorry ramble on so much here but I just started typing..... 

I hope you have a good new year and hope to see you soon.


 


 

[john e. holliday]

As the late great Allen Brickhouse used to tell us.   It's like falling off the edge of the kitchen table.   Make the first turn sharp and if you over turn, don't worry you will have more time to make second turn before bruising the tar mac or grass.

I personally learned to do out side squares by going into a reverse wingover.

[Dave_Trible]

My resolution?   Finding ways to get more practice.  A new scheduling program at work will put me on a regular routine and that may help a lot.
A thought about the outside square ;  my first tries ended up in disaster due to freezing once the airplane was nose down speeding towards the ground.  The mind didn't process that very well.  I eventually started a pre-timed downward jerk on the handle until I got more used to seeing the airplane in a strange position.  I've seen others do the same thing.  I think it may be easier on first tries to enter it from inverted.  You'll gain a rythem by the time you get to kill-devil corner.

Dave

[Allan Perret]

Let me know every time you practice, I will be there if possible.

[big ron]

I did my first successful one or part of one from inverted with no one there, less pressure. Thanks to Brent flying with me and help from Allen, Joe, Gill, and some others I can fly the whole pattern. Any suggestions on making squares better is appreciated. My new years resolution is to fly and build more, crash less!

[Jay]

Calvin has it perfect.

[Tim Wescott]

The outside square can be a little challenging to say the least.

It's only five years now that I've been flying the full pattern, so I can still remember just how scary the outside square can be it first.

+1 on everything else Doug said.  The only thing that I'd add is if all you manage to do at first is that first square turn followed by not crashing the plane then you've got a start on learning the maneuver, and what you're doing is more than good enough for beginner.  You don't need to be good at first -- you just need to make a start.

[Mark Scarborough]

best advise I got for the squares was to fly the square eights,, that way you are already "in sync" and the airframe is slightly slowed down when you enter the outside square,,
it really helped me get over that hurdle,,

[Brent Rogillio]

Thanks for all the advice and willing to help hopefully I will put this to work to fly the squares. love Ya Brent

[john e. holliday]

Practice the squares and pattern in the living room or kitchen.  Just imagine a plane on the end of the lines and move your hand accordingly.   Also when you do get out side to fly with someone that does the pattern, watch their hand as they do the maneuvers.  But it is like the first inside loops.  Remember those,  then you ask yourself why was that so hard.   And what ever you do don't change your mind once you start a maneuver.