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Title: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Allan Perret on May 24, 2009, 07:46:53 PM
Ever since I got back into control-line around 12 years ago,  I been saying I gotta build me a Ringmaster.  Couple of reasons.  Frist, our club's name is the "New Orleans Ringmasters". (clubs namesake makes it almost mandatory to have a Ringmaster)  Second, like a lot of retreads, that's the model I built the most of as a teenager (probalby 4 or 5) and this was going to be my nostalgia bird.  It was suppose to have a McCoy 35 RedHead (that's all I could afford back then).  Seeing what Dee Rice and the Brotherhood are doing with Ringmasters these days I opted for Brodak 25 power.  
Well today I made the first flights on my latest version, and it performs like none of teenage variants ever dreamed of.  Of course I know a little more about building and flying today than I did back then.  This one came in at 24.8 oz as you see it in the pictures.  Gotta think that the teenage versions were all 35+ (and that's without mufflers).  Built it from a Dee Rice / Pat Johnston Gold Label kit.  Got all the good scoop from Dee on bench trim and set up and she flew great from the git go.  Only mod I made was to hollow out the back side of the kit supplied solid leading edge.  Oh yea, one other mod, check out the push rod exit in the last picture.
This is fun stuff, now I have to build another one for the true nostalgia bird and put the McCoy on it.      
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: afml on May 24, 2009, 09:07:57 PM
VERY nice Ringmaster Allan!   #^
luv those hinges!

Can't wait till your "red head" version is done.

"Tight Lines!"

Wes
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Allan Perret on May 24, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
VERY nice Ringmaster Allan!   #^
luv those hinges!

Can't wait till your "red head" version is done.

"Tight Lines!"

Wes

Yea, for nostalgia purposes it's gotta make lotsa noise..
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Randy Powell on May 24, 2009, 11:42:01 PM
Allen,

Looks really good, but where's the tuned pipe?     LL~
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: George on May 25, 2009, 02:32:54 AM
...Oh yea, one other mod, check out the push rod exit in the last picture.
This is fun stuff, now I have to build another one for the true nostalgia bird and put the McCoy on it.     

Allan,

For the McCoy version to be authentic you need to use a diamond shaped Ambroid glue tube top as the pushrod guide.  ;D

Great looking Ringmaster!

George
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Allan Perret on May 25, 2009, 05:49:02 AM
Allen,

Looks really good, but where's the tuned pipe?     LL~

Got your plan and ribset from Pat. 
Engine/pipe on order. 
Its coming.
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on May 25, 2009, 05:56:11 AM
And sewn hinges!  Loooooking Gooooooood!
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Larry Cunningham on May 25, 2009, 07:11:23 AM
Nice looking Ringy. Simple, fun paint scheme. I like the hinges too.

L.

"If the Earth really were your mother, she would grab you with one rocky
hand and hold you under water until you no longer bubbled." -Kathleen Dean Moore
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Allan Perret on May 25, 2009, 08:12:55 AM
Nice looking Ringy. Simple, fun paint scheme. I like the hinges too.

L.

"If the Earth really were your mother, she would grab you with one rocky
hand and hold you under water until you no longer bubbled." -Kathleen Dean Moore

Not much "paint" on this one (only the black tips).   
Green and yellow is domestic tissue and clear dope.
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Bryan Higgins on May 25, 2009, 11:10:00 AM
 ;D COOL  ,  Nice Ringmaster Allan.
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: john e. holliday on May 26, 2009, 08:59:12 AM
Great looking Ringmaster.  You guys keep this up and I guess I am going to have to build one again.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Jim Kraft on May 26, 2009, 07:01:52 PM
That is really cool Allan; I have one with the Red Head 35 that weighs 29oz. We have to weigh them now you know. I know the BrodaK 25 is an excellent engine for it, but the McCoy will make you smile and works pretty well also.
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Richard Grogan on May 26, 2009, 08:59:24 PM
Thats a keeper Allan! Nice scheme and lines too.
Just curious though, how much of the solid LE did you hollow out? Dee and Pat made this one to withstand (mostly) the infamous outboard wing shearing phenominon. The RSM designed LE was too flimsy(sp) at the fuse joint, and enlisted the solid one to help in their Gold Medal version. But, even the solid ones can shear off, given the conditions (Texas weather)!!  LL~
Nice job!
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Allan Perret on May 26, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
Thats a keeper Allan! Nice scheme and lines too.
Just curious though, how much of the solid LE did you hollow out? Dee and Pat made this one to withstand (mostly) the infamous outboard wing shearing phenominon. The RSM designed LE was too flimsy(sp) at the fuse joint, and enlisted the solid one to help in their Gold Medal version. But, even the solid ones can shear off, given the conditions (Texas weather)!!  LL~
Nice job!
I tilted the blade on my table saw to about 15 deg, ran the LE's thru on each side to take out a triangle.  In the center section, I glued in 1/32 ply on each side of triangle, then glued back in the balsa triangle that was cut out, sanded that flush with back edge and then glued on the standard 1/16 ply doubler.      Might have a picture. 
Yep found some.
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Garf on May 26, 2009, 10:04:41 PM
That looks a little like a Flite Streak LE.
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: ray copeland on May 27, 2009, 03:53:34 AM
Allan,, very sweet!!  Nice job man. Hope it gives you yrs of joy!   y1
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Randy Powell on May 27, 2009, 12:46:20 PM
>>Got your plan and ribset from Pat. <<

Pat went a little thin on the detail of the nose for the pipe install. Call or write if you have quesitons.
Title: Re: New Ringmaster, finally ..
Post by: Allan Perret on May 27, 2009, 05:05:47 PM
>>Got your plan and ribset from Pat. <<

Pat went a little thin on the detail of the nose for the pipe install. Call or write if you have quesitons.

I have headers for 2 different side exhaust engines,  Magnum XLS 36 and Enya 40XZS.  Going to set up the front end with aluminum motor plates to allow for easy engine changes.  The headers go straight back like a tube muffler, not the side to rear type of header.  Using a standard profile nose contstuction will tuck the pipe in under the wing just like you did.  So I will not have use the angled beam mounts.