Miss Behave

[Garf]

Can anyone here put a date on the Johnny Casburn "Miss Behave"? I need to know what event this thing fits into.

[Garf]

I have never seen a Johnny Casburn model before.

[Dick Pacini]

I built a Miss Behave kit in 1966. 

[Marvin Denny]

Back When I was in High school (1946 thru 1949)  one of my classes Vocational Ag would go on field trips to ft Worth TX to the  "Rodeo and Fat stock" show.  Those were held on Friday and Sat.   I would cut out of the group and go to two hobby shops in Ft Worth.  Johnny Casburns and Ed Alexander's hobby shop for those two days.
  I would rejoin the FFA group on Sunday to go back home and on the bus trip back I would get some of my farmer friends to let me copy their notes for the reports we had to write about the trip.
   Johnny gave me a Mis Behave kit on one of those trips and if I remember correctly, It was  the first plane that I got a successful loop out of.
   That version was one of the earliest versions.  I currently have a kit of the later version (19 60s) that I intend to build (clone) one of these days.
  The early version had a srraight wing (no taper to the LE or TE) and no flaps.  The later version had flaps added.

   Bigiron--- "honest teach--- I was at the Fat stock show all the time"   Wink wink.
     PS   I made --er--got an A in voc AG.

[john e. holliday]

Thanks Marvin for telling on your self.  I too thought that the kit was last advertised in the early 50's.  Couldn't afford the kits, but I would make a list of all the control line planes in the Air Trails for Young Men magazine Mother would let me buy at the grocery store.   

[FLOYD CARTER]

I replied on the other site about this.  There was a Baby Miss Behave kit which I built in 1947.  I will assume that the full size Miss Behave also came out about that time. 

Tom Lay Jr. has a Casburn Miss Behave.  Maybe he will pop in here if he knows about it.

Floyd

[Marvin Denny]

  There was a Baby Miss Behave kit which I built in 1947.  I will assume that the full size Miss Behave also came out about that time. 

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Floyd

   The kit of the Mis Behave has the plans of the smaller MisBehave included on the plans of the larger one.  I believe that the smaller one is called  the Junior Mis Behave.
  I guess I could go down in the junk barrel and dig out the kit and look.
  OH--- for those who might not know---the MisBehave came out in kit form with the fuselage already pre built in the box.  At least partially built.   

  Bigiron

[Don Hutchinson AMA5402]

The "Miss Behave" name was used on numerous models by Johnny Casburn. I have the plans to the early Baby Miss Behave (ca 1945) designed for the Ohlsson 23 and a Miss Behave for "larger" engines. It is about a 34" span flat bottom section and shows an Atwood Champion engine!! These were well engineered kits, made extensive use of ~ 1/32 mahogany veneer. The plan for the fuselage sides were printed on the veneer where the balsa stringers and uprights went. The larger version  in the early days also skinned the wings with the veneer, later ones had a solid balsa wing, airfoil about 1/2 inch thick I would guess about 1946.
The version which would be of interest today is a big stunt ship that has appeared at VSC for the classic event.
Don

[FLOYD CARTER]

Right you are.  The "Baby" kit had a 2-piece solid balsa wing- flat bottom airfoil.  The instructions said "join the wing halves and reinforce with "crinoline" tape".  I had no idea what crinoline was, all I had was Johnson & Johnson adhesive bandage tape.  Still, on it went, with gobs of Testors cement.  Of course, I also didn't know about ply wing joiners, and the kit didn't have any.

Typical flight with O&R 23:  staggering around (heavy) until fuel gone.  Then landed and flipped, breaking the wing in half at the glue joint.  Replaced old glue with new glue and tried again.  This went on for several weeks until the crash damage was too great.

My next motor was a used Madewell 49, (bigger plane) and no more problems with too little power!

Floyd

[Marvin Denny]

  AAAAAHHH  Isn't it nice to recall such fond memories---- wwwwweeeelllll   maybe not so fond.  Of all the problema we had.   I remember repairing an old trainer with old "horse hoof glue"  The stuff that came in hard chunks and you put the chunks in water and boiled it until you got the consistancy you wanted.   That stuff was as brittle as glass and when that old Ohlsen started-----   that plane started shedding parts faster than I could move them out of the way.  I didn't know what part to hold.

  Bigiron

[Clayton Berry]

My brother Rusty flew a Miss Behave at the 64 Nats, I believe.

My dad and Johnny Casburn kitted the SE5, of which I still have the original prototype (1964 or so) as well as a kit.  The original is in pieces, though.  Henry Werner (Virginia Hobbysport) had restored it, and then I crashed it in my front yard doing a horizontal 8.  It can (and probably will) be repaired.

I got the kit on EBAY a few years ago.  $208, if I recall.  Has $4.95 written on the end of the box.  Had to have it, what can I say?