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Title: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 08:21:53 AM
The real one...


Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 08:23:09 AM
And the one I did. No clear on it yet, that will be done today.

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: proparc on April 24, 2012, 08:43:17 AM
I watched videos of this plane some time back. Nice looking plane-both!! What motor are you planning to use.

Maybe, with all those stars and dark sky, you should use the Snorer!!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Balsa Butcher on April 24, 2012, 09:05:44 AM
WOW! :o, Very Kewl CLP** BW@
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Warren Wagner on April 24, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Derek,

I didn't realize that you were an artist !!   Neat looking plane...would like to see some more photos.

QUESTION:   The red/white separation line was taped, but the rest were feathered.   When you do the
feathered separation lines, do you do them completely *free hand*, or do you set up some kind of
jig that allows you to sweep the spray gun the 180 degrees?   The arcs look pretty consistant for free
hand.
 
TIA

Cheers.

Warren Wagner
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 10:52:38 AM
Derek,

I didn't realize that you were an artist !!   Neat looking plane...would like to see some more photos.

QUESTION:   The red/white separation line was taped, but the rest were feathered.   When you do the
feathered separation lines, do you do them completely *free hand*, or do you set up some kind of
jig that allows you to sweep the spray gun the 180 degrees?   The arcs look pretty consistant for free
hand.
 
TIA

Cheers.

Warren Wagner

Hey Warren,

Yes the feathered colors are done free hand and it was fairly difficult. The Red line that is taped I made a guide for with a vinyl plotter at work. I just followed my template with tape. The stars were positive masks that were stuck on before the blue was sprayed and then removed after.

Thanks for the kind words. This was a fun project. By the way, I did that in two days.

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 10:53:32 AM
I watched videos of this plane some time back. Nice looking plane-both!! What motor are you planning to use.

Maybe, with all those stars and dark sky, you should use the Snorer!!

Evolution 61. It will be my first experience running one...

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Eric Viglione on April 24, 2012, 10:55:25 AM
OK, I'll say it before PJ does... those starburst's on the front of the drop tanks would look great on some wheel pants.  LL~

EricV
(what are friends for?)
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on April 24, 2012, 11:24:48 AM
Derek,
Another beauty. Looks like you are taking Classic serious. That airplane should be competitive in Pampa Expert too.
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on April 24, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Just GREAT!  I'll bet that after the Matrix & now this, you are ready for a couple moneycote jobs..!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: John Lindberg on April 24, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
Looks great, Derek, Classic is my favorite event, alot of variety in this class.  #^
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Balsa Butcher on April 24, 2012, 12:42:55 PM
You will like the Evo 60. I added one head gasket and a STNV to mine. Powermaster R/C 10% nitro 17% lube R/C fuel w/ one ounce Aero oil. RSM 12x5.5 prop. One flip starts, nice 4/2/4 run. 62 ounce big T-Bird, lotsa power. 5.5 ounces gets you a 6 minute flight at sea level. 8)
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 12:44:29 PM
You will like the Evo 60. I added one head gasket and a STNV to mine. Powermaster R/C 10% nitro 17% lube R/C fuel w/ one ounce Aero oil. RSM 12x5.5 prop. One flip starts, nice 4/2/4 run. 62 ounce big T-Bird, lotsa power. 5.5 ounces gets you a 6 minute flight at sea level. 8)

Hey Pete,

Did you change the venturi to the small one that comes with it?  On the bench it ran out 5oz. in 4 minutes.

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
Just GREAT!  I'll bet that after the Matrix & now this, you are ready for a couple moneycote jobs..!

Thanks Dennis.

This one was a piece of cake after doing the Matrix.  ;D

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 12:47:11 PM
Looks great, Derek, Classic is my favorite event, alot of variety in this class.  #^

Thanks John!

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 24, 2012, 12:56:15 PM
Derek,
Another beauty. Looks like you are taking Classic serious. That airplane should be competitive in Pampa Expert too.

Thanks Tom,

This plane is not exactly mine, it is another plane that we built for Bob Shaw (the guy that owns the Sweeper and about 50 other planes that Dad has built for him over the years) I really had fun with this one and it has my AMA numbers on it so I will probably use it from time to time. Bob likes us to compete with some of the planes we make for him.

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Tim Stagg on April 24, 2012, 01:19:14 PM
Very Nice Derek,

I bet you could even fit an electric motor in there y1

Tim
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Balsa Butcher on April 24, 2012, 01:26:54 PM
Affirmitive on the venturi change. Use the smallest one. Tank is a stock RSM 5.5 ounce uniflow vented to the outside. Muffler is an Adamissin Tube. Plug a Merlin 2005. Launch RPM about 8,700. Mileage improved with break-in. Should be a good combination for the Hunter.  No need to go electric with this one. 8)
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on April 24, 2012, 03:31:10 PM
Now that gives me ambition to finish my RSM Hawker Hunter kit.....did you sheet the wing ? ( I am planning on sheeting mine)...hard tank or plastic ? .... auto paint or dope ?  VERY NICELY DONE  !!!!!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Bill Little on April 24, 2012, 04:16:54 PM
Now that gives me ambition to finish my RSM Hawker Hunter kit.....did you sheet the wing ? ( I am planning on sheeting mine)...hard tank or plastic ? .... auto paint or dope ?  VERY NICELY DONE  !!!!!

HI Gene,

The wing is not sheeted.........

Bill
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: RandySmith on April 24, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
HI Gene,

The wing is not sheeted.........

Bill


Sure it is...  it is sheeted  with that  uh silk sheet uh  stuff...         LL~

R
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Paul Taylor on April 24, 2012, 07:39:57 PM
Man that is just two cool.

Now you have two cool looking planes this season. How do you do it??

 BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: RandySmith on April 24, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
Man that is just two cool.

Now you have two cool looking planes this season. How do you do it??

 BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@ BW@


He has little balsa elves  that come over late every night !!

R
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Clint Ormosen on April 25, 2012, 01:05:35 AM
Reminds me of a bag of Skittles. Taste the rainbow. ;D
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 25, 2012, 03:59:16 AM
Now that gives me ambition to finish my RSM Hawker Hunter kit.....did you sheet the wing ? ( I am planning on sheeting mine)...hard tank or plastic ? .... auto paint or dope ?  VERY NICELY DONE  !!!!!

There is both Sig and Brodak colors on the plane. I think the two blues and the black is Brodak and everything else is Sig. The dark red at the edge of the white is a Sig and Brodak mixture. I had to use the colors from each that I liked the best. The clear that is going on now is DuPont 480s, it is a premixed auto clear. I can hear Mark screaming at me right now but this is how we have always done things. It seems to work pretty good for us. I do not recommend other people doing this unless you have experience with mixing different dopes because it is risky.

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 25, 2012, 04:00:26 AM
Very Nice Derek,

I bet you could even fit an electric motor in there y1

Tim

4 out of 5 top competitors prefer IC!   ;)
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 25, 2012, 04:01:00 AM
Reminds me of a bag of Skittles. Taste the rainbow. ;D

Nice   LL~
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 25, 2012, 04:27:57 AM
Affirmitive on the venturi change. Use the smallest one. Tank is a stock RSM 5.5 ounce uniflow vented to the outside. Muffler is an Adamissin Tube. Plug a Merlin 2005. Launch RPM about 8,700. Mileage improved with break-in. Should be a good combination for the Hunter.  No need to go electric with this one. 8)

Thanks Pete!!!

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Bob Hudak on April 25, 2012, 08:06:24 PM
Now that is one awesome stuntship.
          Bob                                                   /DV
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: wwwarbird on April 25, 2012, 08:54:21 PM
4 out of 5 top competitors prefer IC!   ;)

 Thanks for keepin' it real Derek. ;D

 Oh yeah, another incredible looking paint job! y1
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Randy Ryan on April 25, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
What a gorgeous scheme and beautifully replicated!!! I might just be inspired to finish my Gladiator refinishing project now!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: John Sunderland on April 25, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
Nice job man! Two days! HB~> It takes me two weeks to mask! LL~ puttin out a bunch of first class work there. I have been admiring Bobs HH for several years now...but I feel obligated to building my Dads version before I do. I flew my dad's HHs at VSC about 10 years back and managed a respectable placing given I had no appearance points. Yours looks absolutely killer!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 26, 2012, 04:44:27 AM
Nice job man! Two days! HB~> It takes me two weeks to mask! LL~ puttin out a bunch of first class work there. I have been admiring Bobs HH for several years now...but I feel obligated to building my Dads version before I do. I flew my dad's HHs at VSC about 10 years back and managed a respectable placing given I had no appearance points. Yours looks absolutely killer!

I know that is the beauty with this paint scheme, only one masked line, where the red meets the white. It was great!! Well I did have to mask the canopy so two masked lines the latter took about 15 minutes.

Thanks John!

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Chuck Feldman on April 26, 2012, 07:00:12 AM
Derek,

That is one great looking stuntship. Wishing you the very best with it.

Chuck
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 26, 2012, 07:14:10 AM
Derek,

That is one great looking stuntship. Wishing you the very best with it.

Chuck

Thanks Chuck!

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Tom Niebuhr on April 26, 2012, 07:36:50 AM
Santa is not too happy about you using his elves.
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Darkstar1 on April 26, 2012, 08:34:30 AM
Derek
That is a trike gear model right?
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on April 26, 2012, 08:35:07 AM
Derek
That is a trike gear model right?

Yes it is!  ;D

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Matt Colan on April 26, 2012, 09:05:23 AM
Very Very Cool Derek!!!  Looks great!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Darkstar1 on April 26, 2012, 09:43:34 AM
Thanks Derek, Hmmmm! now the wheels are a spinnin!  x: AP^
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on May 01, 2012, 05:10:25 AM
Finished, ready to fly, and 55 oz.

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Derek Barry on May 01, 2012, 05:11:14 AM
Two more...

Derek
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: Allen Brickhaus on May 01, 2012, 05:53:40 AM
55 ounces is a great weight for the size model of the Hawker Hunter.  Smooooooth job Derek.

Allen
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on May 01, 2012, 06:12:40 AM
AWESOME!

Dave's testbed for the Evo weighed 75 oz.  I feel optimistic for your chance of success..
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on May 01, 2012, 08:04:11 AM
Interesting main gear....wonder if it will bounce alot on grass ?  It's not a felony to paint a model like that...it's a
"Miss Demeanor" !!!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: Larry Cunningham on May 01, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
Derek, the real one has nearly as fine a paint job as your model!

Lovely work.

L.

"If you don't want to work, you have to work to earn enough money so that you won't
have to work." -Ogden Nash
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: Larry Cunningham on May 01, 2012, 11:58:32 AM
Gene, I've always heard that sex is a misdemeanor - the more you miss, da meaner you get!

;->

L.

"Keep your face to the sunshine and you cannot see the shadow." -Helen Keller
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: proparc on May 01, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
I really like the landing gear setup. Lite, strong, and simple.
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: Doug Moon on May 01, 2012, 03:07:57 PM
That's really cool!
Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter (more pictures)
Post by: PJ Rowland on May 01, 2012, 05:21:36 PM
Eric is spot on about those wheel pants.

 S?P

Another great effort.

.60 in that sized model? Thats a bit overkill isnt it? - Do you know it was designed for a .35 !


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That was fun saying that..........


Title: Re: New Hawker Hunter
Post by: Larry Fernandez on May 01, 2012, 10:40:40 PM
I know that is the beauty with this paint scheme, only one masked line, where the red meets the white. It was great!! Well I did have to mask the canopy so two masked lines the latter took about 15 minutes.

Thanks John!

Derek

AAAAARRRRGGGG. Fifteen minutes?
I spent more than a week and a half masking and airbrushing my latest nightmare.
I'm going about this all wrong!!!
I'll post pix on another thread so yours wont get hijacked.
Very cool Derek!!!


Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team