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Title: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 02, 2006, 07:21:14 AM
I had a chance to spend some time at Brodak's this past weekend to see what's new and hot.  j1

New - two additions to the warbird series: P-51 and Yak 9. Both are .19 to .35 size and ideal for the new Brodak .25. The Yak in the photo weighs around 26 ounces. The Mustang is still being painted - it should be ready when I visit again in a few weeks.

More new - a newer version of the Baby Clown. This one is set up for beam mount  engine only, exactly like the larger profiles. It will be perfect for the new Brodak .049 MK II. I will install the .049 MK II and do a product review.  ;D

There is a new OTS bird in process, soon to be released. Also, an electric ARF should soon appear.

I will publish as details become available.

AND, my Cardinette ARF prototype arrived!!! I brought it home for evaluation. After a few corrections it will go back to the manufacturers for production. 

The Cardinette will be a perfect platform for the Brodak .25. In the right hands, it's a very capable performer and can keep up with the larger planes.  y1

And, YES, a prototype of a new LARGE engine will be here soon.

Bob Z.



Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Jim Oliver on October 02, 2006, 08:31:58 AM
Bob,
I, for one, am really interested in the larger engine--I hope this will be the .60 I have been waiting for!!

Jim
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 02, 2006, 08:45:12 AM

Jim - 

If the design pans out as planned, you can count on it!!! j1

  Bob Z.
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Dennis Moritz on October 02, 2006, 09:04:13 AM
Oh. I am in need. Darn Yak 9, my childhood fox 35 icon, my first BIG plane. Why'd John have to do that. I am lusting for a Yak 9 Sterling knock off. No doubt it's updated. Light wood. Nylon control horns. Geez. Way to sexy. Excuse me. Time for a cold shower. Also will walk off my lust at the gym, doing the treadmill. Thinking I'm young again...
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: john e. holliday on October 02, 2006, 09:22:17 AM
Bob,  haven't used the land line yet to talk to you,  but, am anxious for the Cardinette.   That Yak 9 brings back memories of the old Sterling kit with a McCoy Redhead 35 that I wore out flying.  You haven't mentioned the new Original Magician kit, or I missed it somewhere.  I picked one up from Bob Brookins in Tulsa this past weekend.  Needless to say while Emmy was taking her shower I had the kit spread out on the bed.  The box weighs more than the contents.  Anyway typical Brodak layout for kits.  Sorry Walter, but, your kit is so lucious to build.  May build it anyway so Emmy and I can have twin airplanes.  Anyway keep us updated on progress.  DOC Holliday
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 02, 2006, 09:39:00 AM
Dennis said: "Oh. I am in need. Darn Yak 9, my childhood fox 35 icon, my first BIG plane. Why'd John have to do that. I am lusting for a Yak 9 Sterling knock off. No doubt it's updated. Light wood. Nylon control horns. Geez. Way to sexy. Excuse me. Time for a cold shower. Also will walk off my lust at the gym, doing the treadmill. Thinking I'm young again... "

Well, Dennis, to really rub the salt, you are correct. Nylon horns and bellcrank, super light and straight wood, and, we just passed a Philly-Flyer law: You MUST but both kits, fly one with the Fox .35, the other with the Brodak .25.

Forget the treadmill, RUN down to the hobby shop and buy them!!

Bob Z.
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Dennis Moritz on October 02, 2006, 09:51:39 AM
Is the Yak 9 close enough to the Sterling plane to be Classic or Old Time legal?
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 02, 2006, 11:41:15 AM
 ABSOLUTELY[/u]!!!!!! j1 j1
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Rick Campbell on October 02, 2006, 11:49:24 AM
A new .60?????

Sounds great!

Hopefully it'll be dual ball bearings, rear exhaust and feather light. Not just a side exhaust 'Tigre clone.  Got those already.

Capable of running piped or muffled would be great, too.

Rick Campbell
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Leester on October 02, 2006, 11:53:41 AM
So Brodak will have 2 Mustang profiles now???  Whats the difference in the 2??
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Wynn Robins on October 02, 2006, 01:45:21 PM
probably P-51B (the current one) and P-51D...the newer shape.

Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bill Little on October 02, 2006, 03:46:32 PM
So Brodak will have 2 Mustang profiles now???  Whats the difference in the 2??

Unless I am mistaken, the second P-51 released is the old Sterling kit, updated.  It was a "D" model and about identical to the Yak shown here.

Bill <><
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Reeves on October 02, 2006, 03:54:06 PM
A new .60?????

Sounds great!

Hopefully it'll be dual ball bearings, rear exhaust and feather light. Not just a side exhaust 'Tigre clone.  Got those already.

Capable of running piped or muffled would be great, too.

Rick Campbell

Projected price I heard was around 150, don't think we are going to get a PA/RO 61 clone for that but a ST 60 clone at that price would be great.
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Peter Hess on October 03, 2006, 12:01:00 PM
Bob:
Can you share any information about how the .049 MkII will differ from the first version?
Thanks.
Peter Hess
Canton, CT
(I just saw your comments in the Products Review section.  It sounds as though the MkII is a winner.)
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: proparc on October 03, 2006, 01:33:16 PM
Man oh Man- Yak 9, #^
Jose Modesto and I can certainly tell you about that  one. I built well over a half a dozen of those things. I used a straight trailing edge on them with flaps. 

Ran mostly Johnson's and Enyas.  With a straight trailing and flaps they would leave the Mustang in the dust, ( built a bunch of those too).

I have always been curious about the Os Max 40 surpass. Maybe this would be a good time to revisit and old friend!

Milton
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 03, 2006, 01:40:34 PM
Milton - put the Surpass where????????????????????????

Bob Z.
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: proparc on October 03, 2006, 03:16:16 PM
Milton - put the Surpass where????????????????????????

Bob Z.

I thought about putting the 40 Surpass in the "new" Yak 9. Probably would fly about the same as the old hot Johnson Combat\Stunt  Fox Combat and Enya 35's we used to use.
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on October 03, 2006, 04:29:06 PM
Bob Z., talk John into selling the Mustang and Yak-9 as a "double kit" - ought to be some economy there.  Gosh, those two sure bring back great memories from the '50s!

Dennis
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Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: wwwarbird on October 03, 2006, 04:42:58 PM
Bob,

Nifty stuff! Is that basically the old Sterling Yak and Mustang? Anything on the Corsair status? The new magazine?

Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Joe Peters on October 03, 2006, 04:56:53 PM
You know Bob, I was just looking at the Small 3-View of the Yak on the old Sterling Plan, last week.   I had 2 or maybe 3 of these a long time ago; all were powered by Fox .35's   I was looking to maybe, blowing the views up and making a 54" Profile version.   I have extra rib sets that would make a close Yak wing.   The little Yak, well, I just might have to put an old McCoy in one of those and relive yesterday.

Joe Peters   AMA 269
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: proparc on October 04, 2006, 01:39:45 AM
Bob Z., talk John into selling the Mustang and Yak-9 as a "double kit" - ought to be some economy there.  Gosh, those two sure bring back great memories from the '50s!

Dennis
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Double kit would be a great idea!! I see I am not the only one here with some serious memories of the Sterling Mustang\Yak.  I just can't believe how many of those things I built!!
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 04, 2006, 05:29:46 AM
Milton - putting a Surpass .40 in the Yak or Mustang would be like putting a SAITO .72 in a Nobler. It's just too much engine.

I have my Surpass .40 in a 58 ounce Euclid and it's almost too much power. I would guess the output to be close to that of an ST .46.

I have flown my Sterling Mustang with a SAITO .30 and an Surpass .26 - the .26 was perfect.

A DOUBLE kit - now, there's an idea!!!

I'll like it but any of you who are seriously interested should also suggest it to John.

He really appreciates customer input and feedback.

Bob Z.





Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: proparc on October 05, 2006, 02:53:52 PM
Milton - putting a Surpass .40 in the Yak or Mustang would be like putting a SAITO .72 in a Nobler. It's just too much engine.

I have my Surpass .40 in a 58 ounce Euclid and it's almost too much power. I would guess the output to be close to that of an ST .46.

I have flown my Sterling Mustang with a SAITO .30 and an Surpass .26 - the .26 was perfect.

You are absolutely correct Bob.  I was not suggesting the perfect engine which you absolutely nailed, I was suggesting the modern day equivalent of a; Fox 36x combat\Supertigre 35 combat\Johnson Stunt\Combat\Enya 35 big venturi combination which Jose and I grew up flying and was totally inappropriate,grossly overpowered,outrageously paired, and a hell-of-a-lot of fun. y1




Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Garf on October 05, 2006, 06:47:58 PM
Didn't I see a Brodak 15 listed on the Brodak website as "coming soon"?
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 06, 2006, 08:21:07 AM
As far as I know, the Brodak .15 will not happen in the near future.   n1

If anything, the .60 will take precedence but that will happen only after the .049,  .25 and .40 demands have been met.

John's goal is to satisfy his customers and at this point, the present production engines are priority.   y1

Bob Z.
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Garf on October 06, 2006, 10:50:41 AM
Then why is it even on the site, and not the 60?
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: steve pagano on October 06, 2006, 04:55:45 PM
any word on the name of that ots bird coming soon?

any new compitition planes coming out by brodak in the future? ~>
Title: Re: New From Brodak
Post by: Bob Zambelli on October 09, 2006, 09:09:08 AM
Garf - the .15 should be removed form the site - soon. y1

We will wait until the .60 is here and we can evaluate it before placing it on the site - because the manufacturer is busy making .049s, .25s and .40 to fill present needs, the .60 will not be here for a while.

BUT, I can just about guarantee that it will be worth the wait. j1 j1

Steve - the now OTS bird is the All American.

For competition, the Strega should be available before Christmas.

Bob Z.