Need some help identifying engine countries of origin.

[Robert Zambelli]

I am categorizing engine by country of origin.
I found a few that have name markings but not country.
Anyone know where these are made?

BS
Bora
Jena
Jene
Sesquy
Tono
Sabre
Flight
KVM
Lewis
Letna
Marvin
Lucas/Smith
Vlatavan
Glo Chief
Rivers
Bond
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Bob Z.

[Steve Thomas]

Hi Bob

Jena was East German (Carl Zeiss, same people that do optics)
I don’t know about Sesquy, but Sesqui is Australian
Tono, Jene, Letna and Vlatavan are Czech
Sabre, Glo Chief and Flight are Australian (the Flight 61 was a rebranded Taipan 61 for the US market)
Rivers is British

Cheers
Steve

[Bill Mohrbacher]

Lewis, Marvin, Lucas Smith, and Bond are USA

See if John has the American Model Engine Encyclopedia, Volume I and 2.  You can identify all US and Canadian engines withnthem

[Robert Zambelli]

Bill & Steve - thanks for the info.
It really helps.
Here are some more - ALL DIESELS

Jaskolka
Elfin
Star
Wilo
WB
OTM
"j"
AH
EGA
BWM
"R"
MAP
Micro
AMCO
XAPLKOB
BONNER
KMA

[Steve Thomas]

Jaskolka: Polish
Elfin: British (except for Australian, Chinese and Russian replicas)
Wilo: East German
WB: Brazilian (I’m assuming it’s a WB250)
OTM: Russian
AH: probably Arne Hende of Sweden. He made mainly replicas and miniatures of other makes.
BWM: German
MAP: does it say ‘MAP3’? If so, it’s ‘Marz’ in Cyrillic - a fairly common Russian engine
Micro: American
AMCO: British
Bonner: should probably be ‘Bonnier’ - if so, French
KMA: probably really KMD (the Cyrillic thing again). Russian

I think that Star might be Russian, but I can’t remember for sure. If you’ve got some photos of ‘j’, ‘R’ and ‘Xaplkob’ we should be able to work out what they are.

Cheers
Steve

[Robert Zambelli]

XAPLKOB

[Robert Zambelli]

"R"

[Robert Zambelli]

"j"

[Steve Thomas]

Star is Moldovan, and ‘XAPLKOB’ is Cyrillic for ‘Kharkov’ in the Ukraine. Sorry, I don’t know what ‘R’ and ‘j’ are!

[GERALD WIMMER]

Hello I know the J one its a Cippolla Junior from Italy
Have you got any New Zealand made engines?
I.E. Katipo,  Pepperell or Westland

Regards Gerald

[dennis lipsett]

"R"

The R is Russian , RJL or Carlson sold them back in the 90's. The backplate was not screwed or bolted onto the case and it was a somewhat loose press fit. I never head of anyone ever getting one of these to run. I had one never tried to start it.
For got to mention the name of the engine. It was called  Zeus
zeus


Dennis

[Air Ministry .]

if youve misspelt sesqui ( 1 1/2 in cyberian )



Burford ( Taipan / sabre ) injun , eye for F colloboration .can be quick , or dogs .

http://www.modelenginenews.org/drj/sesqui.html  link to engine nutters review .

[Air Ministry .]

the Rivers & Elfin are ' top notch ' pommy rubbish . Collectors Items .

AMCO was a big time British Mnfg. several model range .

A MICRON with a N is a French manufacturer , several models .

MAP is Commie .

[Air Ministry .]

Was a test in Model Aircraft ( I think ) or Aeromodellor mag .

of the B W M ,

the one in the top picture ( around 1956 )

http://adriansmodelaeroengines.com/catalog/product.php?cat_id=33&pid=94

[Brian Hampton]

BWM 250D test at http://sceptreflight.com/Model%20Engine%20Tests/B.W.M.%20250D.html and tests of quite a few other engines that Robert has named.

[Massimo Rimoldi]

"j"

Hi.
The engine in the picture is the diesel version of the Cipolla Junior 1.5 cc (J = Junior) of the Cipolla brothers
Made in Italy in the 80s.

Regards, Massimo

Typed later:
I apologize, Gerald had already answered

[GERALD WIMMER]

Hello Massimo

I had a Cipolla Junior Diesel and 2 of the glow versions of it too and they seem very well made like most Italian engines are.
On a non aeromodelling note but still Italian we have a air-cooled Same Delfino 35 tractor that is terrific , really enjoyable using it in the field or mowing the circles.
So much power for its weight and well made with a nice distinctive sound to it, as it is 2 cylinder air-cooled diesel engine and very different to our John Deere.

Regards Gerald   

[Robert Zambelli]

Hello I know the J one its a Cippolla Junior from Italy
Have you got any New Zealand made engines?
I.E. Katipo,  Pepperell or Westland

Regards Gerald

Hi, Gerald.
I checked but I couldn't find any engines from New Zealand.
But, there are still many to sort out!

So far, I have over 800 on display.

Bob Z.

[Massimo Rimoldi]

Hello Massimo

I had a Cipolla Junior Diesel and 2 of the glow versions of it too and they seem very well made like most Italian engines are.
On a non aeromodelling note but still Italian we have a air-cooled Same Delfino 35 tractor that is terrific , really enjoyable using it in the field or mowing the circles.
So much power for its weight and well made with a nice distinctive sound to it, as it is 2 cylinder air-cooled diesel engine and very different to our John Deere.

Regards Gerald   

Hi Gerald.
Careful to say Cipolla Junior Glow, because the versions were 2: STD and Contest.
The tractor is OK.

Regards, Massimo

[GERALD WIMMER]

Hello Massimo

The Cipolla Junior Glow's I had were the standard version with the small heads.
I really like the look of The Cipolla Master 2.5 combat engine they were so neat!
I think Cipolla still making engines for cars ?

Regards Gerald

[GERALD WIMMER]

Hi, Gerald.
I checked but I couldn't find any engines from New Zealand.
But, there are still many to sort out!

So far, I have over 800 on display.

Bob Z.

Hi Bob

Sure is a lot of engines you have but they are so addictive once you get started on collecting them.
New Zealand produced a good number of engines before the 1970's but nothing like Gordon Burford did in Australia

I tell myself I do not need anymore but some just tickle your fancy too much !  .
Just hope I can build enough models to enjoy using more of mine.
My sons may choose to flog mine all off but hopefully there is still a chance they will value or even use some of them. 

I wish you well sorting out your collection
Regards Gerald

[Massimo Rimoldi]

Hello Massimo

The Cipolla Junior Glow's I had were the standard version with the small heads.
I really like the look of The Cipolla Master 2.5 combat engine they were so neat!
I think Cipolla still making engines for cars ?

Regards Gerald

Hi Gerald

At the moment no CIPOLLA engines are produced anymore, but there is some link with the VEGA brand dedicated to the Off-Road.
Gino Voghera a few years ago was dedicated to Pylon engines (DKT) and some time ago I met Andrea Rossi who is currently out of the production world.

Massimo

[BOB ALLAN]

The STAR diesels were made in Germany by Star Modelle Eric Spivey K.G. in Knittlingen-Württenberg, circa 1956 to 1960, and related to the JAGUAR engines. Another obscure German Diesel was the COMET looking a bit like the British AMCO 3.5 BB