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Title: Navion
Post by: Rick Bollinger on December 22, 2012, 01:38:23 AM
Has anyone done the Dare Navion kit 306? I have had this in the attic for years. It looks like a quick build, laser cut with good wood. Was thinking about doing this before I try my first full fuse build.
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: Bootlegger on December 22, 2012, 05:34:21 AM

  Go for it, and show us some pictures.  What engine goes on it?
Didn't Sterling Models also put out a Navion kit??, Seems that I had on in a land long long ago!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: Avaiojet on December 22, 2012, 05:53:49 AM
Berkeley made the kit.

Charles
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: john e. holliday on December 22, 2012, 08:56:04 AM
Yes Sterling made the profile Navion kit.   I have always wanted one just for the looks of it.   A semi scale profile. 
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: Dennis Leonhardi on December 22, 2012, 01:52:38 PM
The Dare Navion is a remake of the old (and rare) Sterling Navion, with construction slightly modified as per plans by Bill Schmidt (who also provides them for the Sterling Mustang and Yak-9).  The Dare kit is really excellent, as are Bill's plans.

However, the basic design is flawed for anything more than limited sport flying.  Imagine a Ringmaster with 2 bricks strapped to the front end, and you have a picture ... Too much nose, too little tail, and a thin wing (same wing as the F-94C Starfire - they came out at the same time).

The Starfire shared the flying characteristics, so when mine met its demise but with a perfectly good wing, I whipped up something with better flying characteristics and painted it in a kinda-RAF scheme.

If you're not looking to win the Nats, the Dare kit should be a fun build.  Schmidt illustrates both the original and wing-mounted landing gear; I suggest the wing mounting, as the ground handing is about 43,294% better and it looks much cooler.  I did the same with several other Sterling kits back in the day.

I had my own reasons for loving the Navion.  I grew up in Owatonna, Minnesota and did some baby-sitting for the Terry Cashman family back in the '50s.  Really nice people; Terry owned a Navion and set what was then a record for a private plane by flying non-stop from Owatonna to Texas.  And it was built by North American and acquired some of that Mustang look.

Have fun - and if you decide not to build it, send it to me!

Dennis
 :)
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: Richard Koehler on December 23, 2012, 09:34:40 PM
I still have my NAVION built from a Sterling kit, and still fly it.  I agree it is not a very good flyer at least with a FOX-35.
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: phil c on December 24, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
The Sterling Navion was one of the few kits I've built.  Did it in highschool or 8th grade.  It flew OK.  I crashed it learning to stunt.  Rebuilt the wing into a profile reminiscent of the Ambroid Scrapper, which flew better.  It finally disappeared when I moved out of home.
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: Mike Keville on December 24, 2012, 05:16:30 PM
Berkeley made the kit.

Charles

The Berkeley kit was a 68" span RC design.
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: larry borden on December 24, 2012, 09:00:53 PM
I had one of the Sterling kits, way back when and enjoyed flying it. For old times sake, built the Dare version and it was a fun flyer.
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: Dalton Hammett on December 26, 2012, 10:57:52 AM
I built one of the Dare kits seven or eight years age.  At the time it was a pretty good flyer.  I couldn't do the pattern then anyway but the plane did turn quickly and I would compary it to one of the CG Goodyear profiles with a .35.   I used a Torp. .32 in mine and enjoyed it several years until one day up in NY...............

Dalton H.
Title: Re: Navion
Post by: Mike Lauerman on December 28, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
The Berkeley kit was a 68" span RC design.


My brother in law offered me a Berkeley Navion in '78. I gladly accepted it, sight unseen...(thought he was talking about the Sterling kit!)
What a surprise when he brought it over! The canopy was big enough to get my head into, which I did. There's a picture around here somewhere...