Author Topic: Steve Buso's Jaguar - Kit Survey (Read 2911 times)

Mike Griffin · « **on:** April 06, 2011, 09:33:21 PM »

I would like to offer Steve Buso's Jaguar as a full kit this summer. This is a survey to see if we have enough people to justify going into production for this model. It will be laser cut from contest balsa. There will not be a short kit available, only full kits.

Please let me know on here or by e mail if you would be interested in purchasing a kit.

Thanks

Mike Griffin

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2011, 10:49:51 PM »

now you're talking.....that is a far better kit to be offering

proparc · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:55:12 PM »

Starting to "get wid it" now.

peabody · « **Reply #3 on:** April 07, 2011, 04:22:52 AM »

Steve's planes mostly (all?) used foam wings....will yours be a foamy? The Jaguar is a greeat flier.
Have fun!

Allen Brickhaus · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2011, 05:27:59 AM »

Great choice and a wonderful size for marketing.

Allen Brickhaus

Allan Perret · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2011, 07:16:13 AM »

What are the specs on the Jaguar ? Engine size, span, area ?
What type of wing construction will you use ?
Any pictures ?
Price ?

PerttiMe · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2011, 08:43:35 AM »

According to Aero Products plans list:

JAGUAR by Steve Buso - 56 in. plane for a 40-46 size engines

Randy Powell · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:31:56 AM »

What kind of price range are we talking?

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:39:10 AM »

Here are the specs on the Jaguar:

Wing Span - 56"

Overall Length - 43 3/4"

TARGET WEIGHT - 52-56 OZ

ENGINE - .40 - .46

WING AREA (GROSS) - 595.8 SQ IN'

FLAP AREA (% OF WING) 102 SQ IN (17.1%)

ASPECT RATIO - 1:5.09

STAB AREA - 73.46 SQ IN

ELEVATOR AREA - 68.5 SQ IN

TOTAL TAIL AREA - 141.96 SQ IN

% OF WING AREA 23.8%

ROOT AIRFOIL - % (INCLUDING FLAPS) 15.7%

TIP AIRFOIL - % (INCLUDING FLAPS) 17.30%

FUSELAGE MOMENT ARMS - 9 7/8" - 16 1/2"

This will be a built up wing (not a foam wing)

Thanks Mike

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2011, 09:46:35 AM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on April 07, 2011, 09:31:56 AM

What kind of price range are we talking?

Randy it will sell for around $160.00 plus shipping. Could go a few dollars either way. It is hard to nail down a price at this point because I do not have figures back yet for CAD work and Laser cutting. You know how that goes...

Mike

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #10 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:26:27 AM »

Quote from: Wynn Robins on April 06, 2011, 10:49:51 PM

now you're talking.....that is a far better kit to be offering

Thank you Wynn. You must be right cause I already have orders for some.

Mike

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2011, 10:27:46 AM »

Quote from: proparc on April 06, 2011, 11:55:12 PM

Starting to "get wid it" now.

Hi Terence. You and Wynn were correct. Have orders already for some....thanks

Mike

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:42:47 PM »

Good choice...Steve's designs are under-represented in the contest field and are some of the best looking designs out there.

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:45:58 PM »

I would think that this would make a great electric airplane with the rather thin wing.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:54:47 PM »

For that kind of price range I'd certainly be interested.

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2011, 02:54:58 PM »

Thanks guys. Glad everyone likes the model. When I spoke to Steve back a few weeks ago, he was just super nice and he helped me a lot with some questions I had. And I think you are right, his designs are under represented. I personally think the Jaguar is a beautiful ship and hopefully this will give all of you who would like to own one the opportunity to do so.

Mike

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2011, 02:57:26 PM »

Quote from: Crist Rigotti on April 07, 2011, 12:45:58 PM

I would think that this would make a great electric airplane with the rather thin wing.

Hi Crist

I had not thought of this being an electric but you bring up a good point. If someone wanted to convert it, I see no reason why they could not.

Mike

Wynn Robins · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2011, 03:02:30 PM »

Quote from: Stunt Supply on April 07, 2011, 02:57:26 PM

Hi Crist

I had not thought of this being an electric but you bring up a good point. If someone wanted to convert it, I see no reason why they could not.

Mike

Mike - you should also take note that there are NO specific electric kits on the market - and this would be a niche that you could fill - there are a LOT of us flying electric - and converting IC kits to ECL is not as much fun as you would imagine!!! so how bout it - get a designer on board and get some eleectric kits out there!!!!

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2011, 04:15:03 PM »

Quote from: Wynn Robins on April 07, 2011, 03:02:30 PM

Mike - you should also take note that there are NO specific electric kits on the market - and this would be a niche that you could fill - there are a LOT of us flying electric - and converting IC kits to ECL is not as much fun as you would imagine!!! so how bout it - get a designer on board and get some eleectric kits out there!!!!

I will see what I can do...
Mike

Ted Fancher · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2011, 06:15:30 PM »

Quote from: Pete Cunha on April 07, 2011, 12:42:47 PM

Good choice...Steve's designs are under-represented in the contest field and are some of the best looking designs out there.

Ditto what Pete said!

Ted

proparc · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2011, 10:57:11 AM »

I have video somewhere,(gotta remember where I put these things) of Windy,Jimmy Casales, and Steve throwing it down pretty hard at an old East Coast contest. He was mixing it up with a pretty rough crowd-Steve was doing alright!!

pat king · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2011, 11:29:38 AM »

Quote from: Wynn Robins on April 07, 2011, 03:02:30 PM

Mike - you should also take note that there are NO specific electric kits on the market - and this would be a niche that you could fill - there are a LOT of us flying electric - and converting IC kits to ECL is not as much fun as you would imagine!!! so how bout it - get a designer on board and get some eleectric kits out there!!!!

Wynn et al,
My Ringmaster 150E and Ringmaster Jr. kits are designed, and contain the parts, to be built either as a fuel airplane or an electric airplane with a minimum of modification required by the builder.

The airplane can be designed to be built either way or designed as an electric powered airplane. If it is designed and includes parts to build it either way the only disadvantage is that it increases the kit cost. If it was designed to be sold as an electric kit, or as a fuel kit, the extra parts would not be required in all the kits.

Pat

Mike Griffin · « **Reply #22 on:** April 08, 2011, 12:54:58 PM »

I just got off the phone with Eric Rule and he has kits now that can be built either as glow or electric (as Pat was saying) with just the addition of a few plywood parts. So I am happy to let you know that we will offer the Jaguar kit as glow or electric and what you need for the conversion will be included in the kit at no extra cost. Thank you Wynn and Crist for bringing this up. Also there will be a TURN KEY electric system available from me in case you need one. Here is what I mean by TURN KEY and how is works.

You push the red button and the prop turns twice and stops.

You walk to the center of the circle (if you are not already there) and pick up your handle and check everything out. Up and Down

After the 30 seconds the engine will soft start for 10 seconds and wind up to 9200 RPM at which point there is take off.

You will have a 6 minute and 10 second flight at which point the motor will beep three times and 10 seconds later the motor quits and you land.

Every thing you need for this system is included and pre programed so you do not have to be a programmer to use the system.

The entire electrical system including prop can be purchased separately for $399.00. The battery can be charged at home or with your car battery at the field. With two spare batteries you can fly all day.

Now you can have the best of both worlds in one box.

Mike