Author Topic: Nats Coverage (Read 42025 times)

RC Storick · « **Reply #100 on:** July 18, 2012, 01:37:06 PM »

I would post more pictures now if we had a good internet connection. Just waiting for a page to load takes a few min. I would shoot myself if I had to deal with this on a daily basis. Worse then dialup! ITS NOT THE FILE EXT. Its bandwidth

peabody · « **Reply #101 on:** July 18, 2012, 01:41:49 PM »

Bob....
It seems to me that there might be wi-fi at the AMA building? or the museum?

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #102 on:** July 18, 2012, 02:07:22 PM »

How about some pictures of all the scoreboards?...somebody? Thanks in advance.

Norm Faith Jr. · « **Reply #103 on:** July 18, 2012, 02:48:35 PM »

Quote from: Robert Storick on July 18, 2012, 01:37:06 PM

I would post more pictures now if we had a good internet connection. Just waiting for a page to load takes a few min. I would shoot myself if I had to deal with this on a daily basis. Worse then dialup! ITS NOT THE FILE EXT. Its bandwidth

Cheap wireless routers Spark, buried in a back room somewhere.

Bob Hudak · « **Reply #104 on:** July 18, 2012, 03:19:33 PM »

Crist,
Dan Bregar took 1st in Open Beginner with an electric Magician. I also saw an electric Banshee in Beginner. Jeff Traxler has an electric Pathfinder he flew in Intermediate. I may have missed a few between trying to keep out of the sun and staying hydrated.
Bob

Matt Colan · « **Reply #105 on:** July 18, 2012, 03:39:51 PM »

Ryan Young gave me the results to the top 10 of classic to post on here. I also heard from Eric Viglione that it was hot and windy once again today. Most of the top guns, according to him, passed their 2nd round flight if they had a good enough 1st round flight.

Howard Rush · « **Reply #106 on:** July 18, 2012, 04:25:32 PM »

Quote from: Tom Niebuhr on July 18, 2012, 11:31:57 AM

And... the uncalled for price of gasoline!

It's a bitch. Every 400 miles I have to put in another 8 gallons.

Doug Knoyle · « **Reply #107 on:** July 18, 2012, 04:31:18 PM »

Quote from: proparc on July 18, 2012, 12:31:28 PM

That is a good point. I am now 1500 miles closer yet , I still couldn't make it. But I am working on it, that's for sure. My date with the L pad is a top priority.

What is the "L pad" ?

Dennis Moritz · « **Reply #108 on:** July 18, 2012, 04:32:14 PM »

A flash flood/rain cleared out the gazebo where the first day scores were posted. I'll figure out a way to iphone pics of those results tomorrow when the papers get stuck back up. Stunt heaven for the early flights. Stronger breeze later in the morning. Darn good flying weather for the most part.

Dennis Moritz · « **Reply #109 on:** July 18, 2012, 04:37:37 PM »

On the way out from Philly, I got 39 something in my plain Civic with no batteries. It's a 2011. ( I hate electric.) My 2009 did 42. Crushing disappointment. However, since June 2012 the air conditioner has been blasting. Did so every mile of this trip. Maybe that accounts for the diff... Young Daniel (Banjok) got pissed off at my mileage discussions. Guess his van, stuffed with the objects of his cluttered mind, didn't fair as efficiently.

Bill Little · « **Reply #110 on:** July 18, 2012, 05:10:54 PM »

Quote from: Doug Knoyle on July 18, 2012, 04:31:18 PM

What is the "L pad" ?

Hi Doug,

There are four paved circles all on asphalt poured in an "L" shape. Three in a row and one to the right. (looking from the other three).

Bill

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #111 on:** July 18, 2012, 05:21:34 PM »

Are there really people who actually LIVE in USA complaining about the distance to Muncie?
I start clapping thinking how close I am when I fly into LAX !

Having said that - I do understand 2500 + mile drives are not enjoyable.

If It means that much to go to the US Nats ( like it does to me ) build a take apart model, book an airline ticket.
Work prevented me this year.

Dont forget to check out the AMA Website - The Nats Newsletters are almost as good as being there.
Allen Brickhouse has been putting in the hard yards with writing and photographs of most of C/L activities. Its about as Up-todate as one can get.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #112 on:** July 18, 2012, 05:56:24 PM »

PJ,

That is how I am planning to go. Build a take apart, convince Howard to haul it to Muncie in the back of his Prius, then fly and rent a car.

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #113 on:** July 18, 2012, 05:59:07 PM »

Just throw it on a plane with you. Your allowed 2 bags !

At worse $200 excess baggage charge.

But.. I don't do alot of Domestic USA travel, perhaps they are more forgiving to the International traveller.

Randy Powell · « **Reply #114 on:** July 18, 2012, 06:03:31 PM »

PJ,

You are from Australia so they don't give you a hard time. They only hassle you if you are an American citizen. If I tried to take a box with a plane in it on an airplane, I would expect to be strip searched, held by TSA without bail and questioned under hot light with rubber hose involved. Or maybe nothing would happen. That's the problem, you never know. I'd be happier if I could just throw the box in the back of Howard's car and avoid the TSA shakedown.

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #115 on:** July 18, 2012, 06:25:27 PM »

Oh dont get me wrong - I went through that with the TSA also - Was taken out the back in Chicargo on the way to Indy, they had 3 guys - 1 heavy ! and they took swab samples of the plane, opened it up took it out - checked it over ( they were quite careful and nice about it ) the plane failed every explosive test they did. However passed it - I had some letters explaining what they were and what fuel they were exposed to. This was signed and certified out here by an official of law.

At worse is was an extra 45 mins to my departure time. I have heard stories of others being denied access to board despite holding a ticket....

Randy Powell · « **Reply #116 on:** July 18, 2012, 07:57:51 PM »

PJ,

It's much easier to take if you understand you are a subject rather than a citizen.

OK, political commentary over.

Brett Buck · « **Reply #117 on:** July 18, 2012, 08:11:05 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on July 18, 2012, 07:57:51 PM

It's much easier to take if you understand you are a subject rather than a citizen.

The King is benevolent and just has our best interests at heart.

Brett

Matt Colan · « **Reply #118 on:** July 18, 2012, 10:17:36 PM »

Here are the scores from the top 10 in OTS from Ryan.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #119 on:** July 18, 2012, 10:33:40 PM »

Quote from: Randy Powell on July 18, 2012, 05:56:24 PM

PJ,

That is how I am planning to go. Build a take apart, convince Howard to haul it to Muncie in the back of his Prius, then fly and rent a car.

Hi Randy,

When we were seeing how to get to the team trials, fly there and borrow an airplane or drive and bring an airplane I was familiar with. We added all the gas money we spent on the way to Muncie, and the price of the hotel we stayed at, and then compared it with two tickets to get to Indianapolis. We found it was a mostly a wash and decided to drive. If we we lived on the west coast, or the team trials were in Tuscon as it was a possibility,we either wouldn't have gone or chosen to fly.

Brett Buck · « **Reply #120 on:** July 18, 2012, 10:43:53 PM »

Quote from: Matt Colan on July 18, 2012, 10:33:40 PM

Hi Randy,

When we were seeing how to get to the team trials, fly there and borrow an airplane or drive and bring an airplane I was familiar with. We added all the gas money we spent on the way to Muncie, and the price of the hotel we stayed at, and then compared it with two tickets to get to Indianapolis. We found it was a mostly a wash and decided to drive. If we we lived on the west coast, or the team trials were in Tuscon as it was a possibility,we either wouldn't have gone or chosen to fly.

When airline captains who are flying their own airline think it's impractical to fly cross-country to the NATs, I figure the rest of us don't have a chance. I only flew with an airplane box 3 times, but there was a problem all three times. I eventually got there but it was a nerve-wracking hassle.

Brett

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #121 on:** July 19, 2012, 12:17:35 AM »

Brett : I know of the exact incident your referring to.. about the airline captain!

As far as I'm concerned coming from Australia was no issue - Having said that - LAX to Chicargo is always a bit of a "suck it and see". Wont prevent me from coming next year.

Derek Barry · « **Reply #122 on:** July 19, 2012, 03:46:38 AM »

If you want to do something bad enough you will drive anywhere to do it...

Dan Bregar · « **Reply #123 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:44:26 AM »

My flying buddy Bob Hudak took 2nd place in intermediate with a great flying Legacy 40 powered by some electrons !

Matt Colan · « **Reply #124 on:** July 19, 2012, 06:53:54 AM »

Quote from: Brett Buck on July 18, 2012, 10:43:53 PM

When airline captains who are flying their own airline think it's impractical to fly cross-country to the NATs, I figure the rest of us don't have a chance. I only flew with an airplane box 3 times, but there was a problem all three times. I eventually got there but it was a nerve-wracking hassle.

Brett

Hi Brett,

I agree. For me, I don't think I would be flying anywhere to a contest in the US, unless I had a plane waiting for me when I got there.

Tom Niebuhr · « **Reply #125 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:41:49 AM »

We all now know the difficulties. and Howard will packing ALL of our airplanes in his little electric car next year.

That said, How about the Nats reports and pictures that we are starved for? PLEASE

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #126 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:22:05 AM »

When was Round one of Qualify?

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #127 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:25:16 AM »

From the L pad pavillion...after one round...rain delay...at least two hours....

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #128 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:37:22 AM »

Thanks Dave for the update!

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #129 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:56:29 AM »

Bit of a correction...round one not quite complete on some circles. Round 1 on delay.

Douglas Ames · « **Reply #130 on:** July 19, 2012, 09:33:17 AM »

Quote from: Brett Buck on July 18, 2012, 10:43:53 PM

When airline captains who are flying their own airline think it's impractical to fly cross-country to the NATs, I figure the rest of us don't have a chance. I only flew with an airplane box 3 times, but there was a problem all three times. I eventually got there but it was a nerve-wracking hassle.

Brett

Non-revenue flying SUCKS. (period). It can take an entire day and 2 or 3 missed flights before you get half way across the country. Even if you have a discounted ticket your still the first to get bumped off an over-booked flight. Your also fodder for a public TSA search and molestation - they love Airline employees. As a 30+ yr. Airline employee, when I go on vac... I drive.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #131 on:** July 19, 2012, 09:37:57 AM »

Dave F. Says we'll get a look at 1:00 pm EST to size it up. Air MUCH cooler. 'Stuff' sure to be different when we do go again......everybody set and trimmed for very hot and windy air.

Dave

Randy Powell · « **Reply #132 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:13:33 AM »

Derek,

Overall that's true, but financially, it hasn't been possible. Both time and money have prevented me from going. But not forever. I'll get there eventually.

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #133 on:** July 19, 2012, 11:00:25 AM »

It's lifting...GAME ON!

Dave

Dave_Trible · « **Reply #134 on:** July 19, 2012, 02:14:30 PM »

It's done....awaiting scores. Hope somebody else will send photos of score boards- I haven't had luck sending pics to the site from my phone.

decamara · « **Reply #135 on:** July 19, 2012, 02:31:33 PM »

The AMA Nats News report has been posted as well.

But states that they will NOT post any scoring.

I see Paul W. has gone back to the original Impact bird with a GEO wing, electric, and (could be just the pic I saw...) maybe a larger stab.?

Crist Rigotti · « **Reply #136 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:17:57 PM »

SCORES:

Mike Schmitt sent these to me.

proparc · « **Reply #137 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:36:31 PM »

Where's Doug Moon on qualifiying?

Randy Powell · « **Reply #138 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:37:23 PM »

Glad to see my boy Howard qualified. Good Job Mr. Rush!

decamara · « **Reply #139 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:40:24 PM »

Quote from: proparc on July 19, 2012, 04:36:31 PM

Where's Doug Moon on qualifiying?

2nd pic in Christ's last posting of scores.......

proparc · « **Reply #140 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:56:59 PM »

Quote from: decamara on July 19, 2012, 04:40:24 PM

2nd pic in Christ's last posting of scores.......

I see it thanks he qualified.

Doug Knoyle · « **Reply #141 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:10:59 PM »

Quote from: proparc on July 19, 2012, 04:36:31 PM

Where's Doug Moon on qualifiying?

Both Moons made it ..way to go Steve.

...Congrads Mr Rush !!!

Bill Little · « **Reply #142 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:19:48 PM »

Congratulations to Steve Fitton! He qualified!

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

Matt Colan · « **Reply #143 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:29:33 PM »

Looks like everybody is getting some really good flights in!!! Good luck to everybody in the shootout tomorrow, I"ll be waiting for reports!

PJ Rowland · « **Reply #144 on:** July 19, 2012, 05:30:56 PM »

Both moons will be on Show in Top 20 day

(_i_) ... (_i_)

Mike Palko · « **Reply #145 on:** July 19, 2012, 06:01:19 PM »

There is some tight flying as usual. Congrats to Fitton for making the top 20.

I look forward to Friday's results! Thanks for the updates and thanks to Allen for the excellent Nat's News!

Mike

Brad Smith · « **Reply #146 on:** July 19, 2012, 06:22:47 PM »

Yea Steve you rock .

john e. holliday · « **Reply #147 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:52:21 PM »

Now guys have done it. In the NATS News it was stated that no scores would be posted because the judges read the NATS News and the forums. I hope they have enough judges left after today that will be honest enough to say they have not seen scores of any kind so far for the final rounds and the top five, plus the Walker Cup.

Trostle · « **Reply #148 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:07:10 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 19, 2012, 07:52:21 PM

Now guys have done it.

Hey Doc,

I think you are reading too much into this. Tomorrow is a new contest. The scores and the relative rankings of today are now meaningless. All the judges know is that the people they see tomorrow have made the top 20. Their scores today have no bearing on what happens tomorrow.

Keith

john e. holliday · « **Reply #149 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:10:05 PM »

You don't think the scores of the last two days will have an influance on the judges? I liked the judge that after the contest I competed in one year, asked me if I flew that day.